Biily, you seemed to have answered my question with this "given that I'm still here copping the sh!t that anyone throws at me, and I'm not giving in to the masses", what? [censored] being thrown is not agreeing with you.

Personally I find anybody who won't let go of the past irritating, but you are entitled to be that way, but I will say so, if that is [censored] throwing also then so be it, you will just have to live with it

The mythical 186 was 2 years ago, we are about to start a new season with all the optimism and hope that brings, can we just go forward or do we need to carry that baggage till the day we die

This topic is about a guy who has given his all to footy for years, as a player, coach, football manager......he stepped in with Jim Stynes et al and dragged us back from the brink, the fact that you launched a unjust diatribe against him raised my hackles, hence my posts

we will differ on a few things above- firstly CC was transferred out as a consquence of the $500K - he has been out for over a year - way before the investigation even started. I suspect he was moved out due to his over-forthrightness with players.

CC's comments can be looked at subjectively - joking or not joking and he gets suspended for a year - Trigg rorts the salary cap and gets 6 months ? I will never agree that 12 months is a fair penalty. The AFL was looking to come away with something, anything and CC was it. Whilst I am happy to move on, I have made my feelings known that whilst this will now conclude this awful chapter in an expedient manner - it is exactly that - expediency and something strong clubs like Collingwood would not accept.

I don't believe I said that the club changed his roles because of the fine. Obviously they changed him before the investigation, which I put down to his incompetence in that role.

Biily, you seemed to have answered my question with this "given that I'm still here copping the sh!t that anyone throws at me, and I'm not giving in to the masses", what? [censored] being thrown is not agreeing with you.

Personally I find anybody who won't let go of the past irritating, but you are entitled to be that way, but I will say so, if that is [censored] throwing also then so be it, you will just have to live with it

The mythical 186 was 2 years ago, we are about to start a new season with all the optimism and hope that brings, can we just go forward or do we need to carry that baggage till the day we die

This topic is about a guy who has given his all to footy for years, as a player, coach, football manager......he stepped in with Jim Stynes et al and dragged us back from the brink, the fact that you launched a unjust diatribe against him raised my hackles, hence my posts

So you've got nothing to back up your lies? Considering you don't like "keyboard heroes", you make it hard not to be personal when you make sh!t up about another poster, then avoid any challenge by changing subject. Poorly played champ.

Gee Billy I actually feel sorry for someone with so much hatred for so many people

I haven't got a point to prove, I have an opinion on CC and will stick with it, my comment was based on the majority of your posts, you don't seem to have a very high opinion of anybody if you want me to put it that way...

Sorry didn't realise you were so thin skinned, due to the number of stones you throw in other people's direction.

A bit of proof would be the fact you have spent nearly three pages of postings trying to get people to agree with you, it ain't gonna happen...

Biily, you seemed to have answered my question with this "given that I'm still here copping the sh!t that anyone throws at me, and I'm not giving in to the masses", what? [censored] being thrown is not agreeing with you.

Personally I find anybody who won't let go of the past irritating, but you are entitled to be that way, but I will say so, if that is [censored] throwing also then so be it, you will just have to live with it

The mythical 186 was 2 years ago, we are about to start a new season with all the optimism and hope that brings, can we just go forward or do we need to carry that baggage till the day we die

This topic is about a guy who has given his all to footy for years, as a player, coach, football manager......he stepped in with Jim Stynes et al and dragged us back from the brink, the fact that you launched a unjust diatribe against him raised my hackles, hence my posts...

I assume when you said carp I posted about you, you meant something fishy, I suggest you actually go back and read some of the posts you have made in other topics...

You are entitled to your opinion, just don't shove it down people's throats...

That's just from this thread, 3 and a bit pages...

Billy, I may just leave it now, you seem to be intent on denigrating me because I don't agree with you, obviously you stand by your opinion of CC, you are entitled to that, just sad you besmirched a great man.

It is my opinion that a lot of your posts are negative, again I am allowed to think that, it is not lying, it is my opinion

For your information I have come out from behind my keyboard quite a few times, some posters on this board know exactly who I am