Misson knows what the Saints 1 and 3 km time trial were. Neeld knows what the Pies 1 and 3 km time trials were. Misson has clearly said we are not at that level. As for game plan Bailey played the flood well after it was obsolete and now Neeld has to teach the press and the spread as well as basic defensive ethos that we've missed since Northey. I think the 186 team was a tad worse myself.

I agree with this however today we were every bit as bad as 186. It was the same pedestrian non-effort as that bleak day.

At least when they played under Bailey, he didn't implement some ridiculous game plan that stifled any talent they had. At least when we lost under Bailey (which was, disturbingly, less frequently than we are losing under Neeld) we would see glimpses of talent for a portion of the games.

This is [censored], rose-coloured glasses revisionism of the highest order. Where were you in 2008? 2009? Hell where were you last year when we played WCE in Perth Carlton on Friday night footy and Geelong at Geelong? This crap about "we were OK under Bailey" makes me sick. Yes we are [censored] now but we were [censored] then as well. Neeld is trying fix this but you know what they say about polishing turds.

This is [censored], rose-coloured glasses revisionism of the highest order. Where were you in 2008? 2009? Hell where were you last year when we played WCE in Perth Carlton on Friday night footy and Geelong at Geelong? This crap about "we were OK under Bailey" makes me sick. Yes we are [censored] now but we were [censored] then as well. Neeld is trying fix this but you know what they say about polishing turds.

Settle down Gonzo and read the post... I dont think mmc was suggesting 'we were ok under Bailey" at all...they were pointing out that at least we had something to watch....the current approach on the other hand......

and as you point out today was as bad as 186..at least that was by a freewheeling high scoring GFC... today we got flogged by 16goals by SYDNEY

Well last week we dragged Hawthorn down to our level for a quarter... unfortunately they recovered to play some very very poor football that we weren't good enough to match over the second half.

I'm hoping for improvement but expecting a solid loss

FMD, even when I expect the worst I end up being over optimistic.........flogged by Sydney and playing the worst footy I've seen for years

Dees to lead all day and run out 28 pt winners... I dreamt it Monday night....

If I were you I'd cut down on the Habeneros and cannabinoids.

And the Jimson Weed.

Edited May 19, 201213 yr by CHAMP