Mark Jamar

Rhino.

I've highlighted the above from my last post in response to yours. I agree with your sentiment that neither have shown themselves to be AFL quality ruckman, however IMO PJ has more of a chance of getting there one day.

IMO there is no doubt what so ever that Jamar is an AFL quality tap-ruckman. Which at least is the main facet of being a ruckman in a football team. As we all know, Jamar does not have the mobility required to be a genuine 18th footballer on the ground and Rhino's statement "Neither are satisfactory AFL ruckman" is the point here. I guess my point is that Jamar (for all the criticism he cops) at least deserves some credit as his craft of tap work is easily up to AFL standard. To say he is not a AFL quality is a bit misguided IMO, to say he is not "satisfactory" (which is what Rhino actually stated) is a more accurate depiction as he is not a complete package with his around the ground work. I may be a bit picky here but I don't think Jamar gets the recognition he deserves as a tap ruckman by our supporters. IMO, last year Jamar's tap work was one of the main reasons PJ was free to play as a tall utility so often.