You are absolutely correct - "We played well but came second" - what a load of bs

well now it's got bloody well worse! I see Brad Green's taken to saying that we aim to be competitive--no thought of actually winning it seems!

I've noted what all you miserable types say--'that's all we can aim for-" I say -b-s!

We'll have a [very] decent backline I believe. McDonald, Mclean,Bruce Green and umpteen others on the ball, Morton and Wheatley? on the wings, Miller at CHF,accompanied by Davey, Wona, Bate, even the blessed Sylvia who's usually good for a goal from his 3 disposals, I have faith in Newton.and expect Dunn to burst forth as a top player. And we'll get a bit from a number of recruits

Bit worried about rucks, less so if Spencer can play.

Hell, it doesn't look too bad, and we should be aiming to snag victories [a lot of them] rather than running a good second [out of 2]

i can't think of one way how it is a negative comment, or bad line.

How many matches are one when a team is not competitive? If you've followed the dees for any length of time, which obviously you have, you'd know competitiveness has long been one of our biggest problems - 06 losses to the Blues for instance.

It is the process that gets teams to premierships! If players are competitive 100 percent of the time and follow a good style of play, they become very hard to beat.

45: "06 losses to the Blues for instance." So, so angry after those games.

I still haven't gotten over them mate, and they've pretty much come to symbolize for me a lot of what has been wrong with the club since I've been supporting them.

I feel an attitude that one must be forever "competitive" or hard at it no matter who is in the side or who you are playing, will go a long way to fixing these problems.

Hell, it doesn't look too bad, and we should be aiming to snag victories [a lot of them] rather than running a good second [out of 2]

Bailey meant that 'coming second' remark as a way of not allowing the team to be happy with honourable losses. As in - we came second, we lost, it doesn't matter if we were the better team for 75% of the game, etc.

I think you need to re-read his remarks before your next rant.

Bailey meant that 'coming second' remark as a way of not allowing the team to be happy with honourable losses. As in - we came second, we lost, it doesn't matter if we were the better team for 75% of the game, etc.

I think you need to re-read his remarks before your next rant.

it's not a rant, and no need for you to be offensive.What about Brad Green's remarks in The Age?

Coaches who hope to win don't, in my [lengthy] experience, talk about being competitive

I've also had some experience in marketing and I can promise you that a promise to be competitive won't help sell memberships--if one needs to adopt that approach into the season, then ok--but not before.

At the bottom of my concern is my belief that unless MFC kicks a lot of goals, financially, this` year could be our last in Melbourne. At present the budget is a country mile from balancing

With the list we have, if we focused solely on "winning," we would end up in the same position as Sheedy's Bombers a couple of years ago.

Competitive in a couple of matches, by largely smashed. Sheedy wanted them playing free flowing, attacking footy.

For Melbourne, another season of poor, uncompetitive losses containing a handful of devastating losses would not sell memberships either, and would certainly not help us to "kick goals financially."

Our entire club needs to learn how to stay commited to the task, at all times. This will help our young players mature as a group, and help our team match it with other teams who might be better skilled/manned than ours.