I honestly believe if Viney was up and running that this thread would have died by now. We couldn't draft all in and under midfielders when you have Jones, Mckenzie and Viney locked away. I really dislike that everyone has jumped on Toumpas expecting him to be as soft as butter in his first year then Watts. Congrats to Ollie for proving the doubters wrong, GWS, Melbourne, Bulldogs passed on him so he has surprised a few, have GWS's no 2&3 picks even played this year?!?. If we have implemented the proper structures to developed our youth this pick wont be a mistake. You can't paint everyone with the same brush. Give him time, I personally think he's tracking really strongly. Prove the doubters wrong Toooouuuuummmmpppp!