Dee Zephyr

Do you think we will see another horse in our lifetime win the Melbourne Cup 3 years running? I was a massive fan of Vinnie Roe, he was a quality stayer but he just couldn't topple the great mare. I attended the 2004 Melb Cup, the downpour fazed no one that day, that great race will be a long lasting memory.

If the " A Day at the Races" kicks off and we add some more members contributing maybe we can start some kind of tipping competition. Whilst browsing the NFL thread Macca I noticed you ran a competition between a few of you. The Idea consists of a 3-2-1 points system where the members can nominate a meeting during a Carnival. For example, let's nominate Blue Diamond day. We all select a horse for each race on the day and selections must be posted prior to the first race. If time doesn't allow for people to browse all races maybe we can select the quaddie legs for the competition. Win a race and you receive 3 points, 2 for second and 1 for third. We could double the points for the main race of the day. This doesn't have to be for financial purposes just some "In House" fun. The winner on the day can have bragging rights and decide on a change of avatar of the last placegetter or something along those lines. I know there's a bit going on currently with the name changing of the thread and putting the word out to other horse racing enthusiasts but maybe something to keep in mind. Thoughts?

" A Day at the Races " gets my vote. I am unsure where they will head with Santos during the Autumn. The following link is his latest run. A couple of points out of the race. Keep your eye on the far left of screen (widest barrier/yellow silks), begins awkwardly and is out wide albeit with cover. In the straight it looms as a winner but around the 200 metre mark is when the horse suffered the leg injury. Connections were mostly pleased at how the horse managed to fight on to the finish after sustaining the injury. http://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/VideoResult.aspx?MeetDate=2017Oct14&VenueCode=MjY4MTI4&RaceNumber=2&MeetingCategory=Professional&VideoFileType=FullReplay

The bloke that part owns Dan also has a small percentage in a horse called Santos trained by the Waterhouse/Bott stable. It's getting ready for the Autumn carnival and could be one to follow. It's shown ability in his two starts but did suffer a leg injury in his second start. All is well with the horse now and it's $51 currently for the Golden Slipper. Here is Santos in a trial on the 12th of Jan. http://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/VideoResult.aspx?MeetDate=2018Jan12&VenueCode=MjY4MTI4&RaceNumber=10&MeetingCategory=Trial&VideoFileType=FullReplay

That would work IMO. Some people are not into the "Punt" so to speak and don't want to hear about it in other threads. In the post match discussion topics last season some posters were quick to tell us they backed the opposition against us, classic example was the Norf game in Tassie, someone gloated about betting on them to beat us. Most of us were pretty gutted after that loss and reading that irked people even more. Another example was our disaster in Round 23. We were $11 to miss the finals yet people reminded us what a good bet that was. I realise people can post anything related to the games but I also realise some Demonlanders don't want to read about it.

What's wrong with it Wadda?

Sounds good Macca. Hopefully a few more get on board. You might end up with more than one person nominating the same horse as their " Best", which kind of makes the decision of including it in the multi a bit easier. Anyway, we'll see how it plays out. Good luck at Sha Tin tomorrow.

I like the sound of that Wadda and if we do hit a big quaddie maybe we can ask the boys in charge to start a racing podcast.

Yes, second and third.

I added Mortons Fork in the last leg. Sohool worked hard early to get outside the leader and unfortunately couldn't find much. Oh well, the usual 3 legged Quaddie.

Lol, connections not too pleased at the moment, surely during track work they would have noticed something amiss with the horse. It took them four runs to realise the horse wasn't letting down properly. Bombed out of the Quaddie mate, I had the 3,5 and added Petrology in the 3rd leg for some value.

Some news on Dan guys. The horse has been running with a bone chip in his knee the last few runs. How that goes unnoticed is beyond me....it's been transferred out of the Carey stable and taken to Kyneton to be trained by Dean Krongold. He will be out for a while and there's a chance we have seen the last of him. He gave Demonland one or two good runs in the short time he was a part.

Don't stress Wadda, I put your Quaddie on....

Tricky indeed, small field, add the Valley factor and quite often a speed horse will take some catching in a sprint race. In saying that, I still felt Brave Smash was the top choice. Lol, I much preferred the appraisal from Weir on Big Dukes' failure in the Mooney Valley Cup back in the spring. When asked on radio a day or so about the poor showing, he simply replied " the horse went sh*thouse." No sugar coating that time. I think we could have some fun throwing our " Best Bets" together, especially with the Autumn Carnival just around the corner.

I like the idea Macca. I'd be more than happy to participate and I'm interested to see what a few more think. My pick of the weekend was Brave Smash in the Group 2 at the Valley tonight, it wasn't very brave though.

Cheers for the video Macca, loved every bit of it. 'Enable' is one serious filly, maybe they can bring her here so "Fun Time Frankie" can have some success in Oz. A clash with 'Winx', " I'd like to see that!"

Thanks Wadda, I'll take that quaddie. I will include the 7 ( Diapason) in race 6 and 6 (Petrology) in race 8. Like you stated, Petrology is hard to catch but it runs on more often than not and does place at long odds. Doesn't get beaten by a long margin usually even when it misses the place.

Appreciate the effort you put in Macca to keep us up to date with the thoroughbreds. With a hot weekend coming up it's a good time to spend indoors and enjoy the racing. Wow, 1600m down a straight and the winner still wanted to run off the track when it got the wobbles.

Hi Wadda. You might as well have a go on Ace High at those odds and if it wins you become the legend for backing the horse that beats Winx. I was on Foxplay last September when Winx ran it down in the last 10 metres and beat it by a whisker, I thought I was a clever little puppy for picking the horse that almost beat her. If you were to bet on Ace High now and for whatever reason it doesn't run you should be able to get a refund, as the Tab odds aren't displayed as All In for the Apollo and Chipping Norton.

I'll go out on a limb and say if we improve our ladder position from last year we play finals.

Yeah Macca, I think Dan worked too hard early but in saying that I think the younger horses are too good for him these days. It was good finish though between the top 2. Looking forward to your selections for Hong Kong tomorrow.

When Dan was in good form and going through the grades his rating enabled him to enter strong races with a light weight and it turned out as a success. When a horse loses form and doesn't register a win for a while the rating of that particular horse will drop but it still might be one of the highest rated horses in the race like Dan was today, hence the big weight. As it stands today Dan is an 83 rating I believe. For him to gain a light weight he would need to enter a benchmark 90 race or higher(listed/group). In that case, due to the fact his best is beyond him he would be way out of his depth in strong races. Connections are in a tough spot now, for him to be a realistic chance of winning again they would need to target a weak race like an 80 benchmark or country handicap, but all that does is make him carry the grandstand. I hope that makes sense a tad, I really shouldn't be typing on the back of a few scotches..

G'Day Macca, hard to go past Wise Hero in my opinion also. Malaise is the other one I fancy, I will try and put some sort of trifecta with Dan in there. Malaise ran almost a second slower than Wise Hero in winning its last start over the same distance and what looked a similar grade also. Like you stated, if Wise Hero runs anywhere near the time he ran last start it would be hard to beat. It would be nice to get a collect today and fund the upcoming Autumn Carnival.

No update as yet but at those odds I will have something each way just in case the Zephyr gets up. My mate says the horse has to win a race eventually....today seems as good a time as any.

Dan Zephyr has accepted for Flemington this Saturday. It looks like connections are trying hard to get the horse another win but the current odds suggest otherwise. As far as I am aware they will run him. https://www.racenet.com.au/racing-form-guide/flemington-20180120/vrc-young-members-handicap-race-9 Lets hope he starts the year a lot better than how he finished the last.