Ted Lasso

I think paddy will become a good player in time, probably not elite but a good player. Petracca is already a good player and looks well on the way to being elite. But they needed a key forward at the Time and we needed mids.

Problem is that it's a crap strategy, why recruit someone you know is a list clogger?

Imagine the list we would have if Jason Taylor had control of all the picks the suns or giants got? I really think sos is an extremely overrated recruiter and has set Carlton back with some of his giants imports I mean why would anyone bother with Jed lamb or palmer??

People forget that these guys cheated. They aren't innocent victims, if they had any evidence at all they could have proved their innocence, they didn't even keep their own personal records. I hate this returning hero mentality, no one should be celebrated for doing the wrong thing

Let's not forget who is really to blame here, Stephen dank and the Essendon footy club for attempting to cheat. Nothing else that happened is nearly as significant as their attempt to cheat and to this day they still deny it.

This is a really important point I think, I may get shot down for this but I rate hunt just about on par with Kelly for talent, i find it unbelievable that he didn't get a rising star nomination last season. A really great example of a player those who attend training can see the talent of but those who rely on game day only probably didn't know much about, I think we might have another one this year with young smith as well, I really think he's one who could surprise a lot of people this year and play fairly regular senior games

I'm thinking we offer them cam pederson and they give us josh Kelly and Dylan Shiel?

seen more than enough of all three to be really comfy with that deal. Kelly may be the best of the lot but the combined ability of Tyson and Salem is probably a slight win for us imo but both sides would be really happy with it

why would anyone want to leave the giants? Sure he might have to take a pay cut but they might win the next 5 flags

Media is his only chance, in my humble opinion

As someone who has been through mental illness to a fairly serious degree I am absolutely sympathetic for what James hird is going through, part of me wishes the media would leave him alone, he's missed a year, paid his fines and will never work in the sport he loves again so while I've personally lost respect for him as a football person for his actions I wish him well with his health.

I understand the need to leave James alone and that I don't have all the information but geez his old man didn't need to say anything did he? Just kept him in the media for another couple of weeks.

My opinion is personally if any athlete in any professional sport is found guilty of drug cheating they should be banned for life if they did so knowingly, i understand there have been circumstances under the WADA code where the athlete was silly or negligent and i believe 2 years is about right for those cases, but if these players have indeed cheated, and lied about it i strongly believe they and all involved deserve a lifetime ban from the AFL, obviously that won't happen though because $$$ matter a lot more to the AFL than justice or integrity of the contest.

The AFL should have said Pick 1 doesn't reflect where their list is at and we can't penalize teams like the Brisbane Lions who didn't cheat so we're going to give Essendon their first pick at the end of the first round giving them pick 18 I think that would have been fair, Pick 1 is an absolute disgrace.

Yes! regardless of whether they are as guilty as a lot of people think, they are convicted drug cheats and the number 1 priority of the AFL and AFL media in this and all situations like this should be to make sure that that is condemned! regardless of the personal opinions of those involved, these players have been found guilty of cheating and should be treated as such by everyone outside of their club.

I can catagorically say i will never go to another Essendon home game, i don't want to contribute money to a team that believes cheating is okay, and STILL to this day the players have never publicly taken responisibility for their own failings in this situation, they just play the victim card.

I suspect they are being paid to keep their mouths shut.

What's the point in contesting the lifetime ban from AFL? it's not like anyone would consider hiring him again surely.

I write this being very confident Dank is all talk and has absolutely nothing, but even if he did have smoking gun evidence somehow i would have thought the players were still in breach - failure to keep records is a bannable offense on it's own isn't it?

I find this all very strange, i mean the only way i could see that he could come out on top is if he produces new evidence like records of the program that would not only clear him but the 34 players as well, and then the players would quite rightly be asking why they had to wait until they'd missed a year of footy and so on before he bought this out. otherwise i can't see him overturning it and he's just wasting money and time.

Not sure how this works so the legal people on here will be able to help.. With Jobes compensation claim and all the other players, do they have to prove they weren't complicit? for example do they have to produce records showing an alternative to what they've been found guilty of to prove they were duped? or do they simple get compensated because EFC officials ran the program regardless of whether they were in on it or not

I think the line should be awards, All Australian isn't fair because a player has missed out on the honor because he's cheated.

Surely if he isn't able to win the brownlow that's the league admitting he cheated, and making his entire season a write off and all achievements like the Brownlow and AA void, can't be shades of grey here, either he did the wrong thing and loses it all, or WADA have no idea and he keeps it all, playing games like this just makes the league look silly.

The AFL is upset beccause they were made to look stupid and corrupt, and didn't get their own way.

It's amazing how many supporters still believe Jobe has done a brave and noble thing by handing the brownlow back, and those supporters are saying Jobe has more integrity than Cotchin or Mitchell. I still feel strongly if he was doing this by choice and looking to honor what the award stands for and all that he claimed he would have done this the day the appeal failed, not months later when talk is getting around that he's going to lose it anyway, it's pretty obvious in my opinion that the AFL have tipped him off and given him the opportunity to look good.