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To trade Oliver for next to nothing would have torn the club apart. We get another year of a way healthier version ( I hope) and if we handle it well throughout the year will get way better value IF it comes to it. I’m relieved.

Appreciate this read TN.

so....all of Trac, Pickett and Oliver likely leaving this year or next. Followed in the coming years by the retirement of big Max and JV. And the possibility that Caufield turns into nothing. Its like a welcome back to 2013....re remembering the foot of the ladder and being the brunt of the media and other supporters jokes. We had a nice short holiday at the top . but this is a fall thats as dizzying in its speed and drama as was winning the flag in 21. On the flip side. We did win that flag....and for a 50 plus year supporter that is no small thing. Its a piece of joy I never thought Id get. I for one will continue to buy memberships and support the club as fiercely, if not more than, I always have ...and hope we may re organise in some way to make our rise faster than it was back then.

any review should also explore how and why our club is leaking like the frikn titanic.

I don’t know details but if the dees are looking to offload perhaps the best player I’ve seen since flower in the red and blue then I’m pretty sure it wasn’t “ what 80% of 26-7 year olds are doing” . It may be a choice between trac and oliver… i don’t know. Honestly speculation is pointless. Just saying that pointing at Trac is easy and I think we’re all seeing now the issues he was pointing at have been running quite deep.

We can sit around and blame Trac for this…but it looks more and more likely he was drawing a line in the sand that needed to be drawn. It we want to point fingers it should probably be in the Oliver direction. And the fact we let managing him get so out of hand.

depending on the role offered I would think?

pretty sure the comment was satire

A future that may start to look a bit too much like our past I fear.

your feelings or your info DJ?

If he goes to the cats for a future first...I think Im gonna stop following footy altogther. [censored] what an utterly depressing year this has been

Well, that was a short stay at The MFC coach making factory. Obviously a good football mind but , perhaps through the weight of circumstances, we didn’t get to see much of it or much of anything good anyway. I don’t mind the thought of a clean break and a new face …. just hope we can land some quality.

along with the usual swipes she just can’t help herself taking at us. And still no one can seem to bear mentioning the act that put him there.

What was Olivers intensity of training like. I know he finished his season off with a variety of injuries including a PCL...was he running ok?

too injured or ?

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so…. all good so far but the “ business case” , which is surely the main part, we now will wait on til mid 25 to see if it can go ahead? Anyone with a little more knowledge on these things want to try interpreting this?

is that a hint?

Let’s say Trac doesn’t get bk to playing on ball in 25. For arguments sake let’s also say Oliver and or Viney miss a chunk of games. Both scenarios seem more likely than not. Plus, while Rivers was a great addition, we also missed him off half back… and it might be better for our overall balance if he wasnt mainly an on baller. Given all of this is Macrea a decent choice?

thank you… and fingers crossed! I’ve wanted a home base almost as much as a premiership most of my 50 plus years of being a supporter.

Carlton have had a shot ton of injuries and sacked their fitness boss. So perhaps they realise it’s on them. If his injuries were manageable / improvable he’d certainly be a good pick up.

All 4 finals we could or should have won. Bad kicking for goal was what cost us... Goody cant take their shots for them. The game plan provided the opportunities. Hinkley has been slaughtered consistently in finals...if that was the Dees Id be thinking differently.

If we sacked goodwin can u imagine the media pile on .. club in crises … stories. They WANT us to sack him to keep running with this sh@tfull narrative. “Dees sack premiership coach” Do its Def a no from me… fr many reasons ( 3 x top 4 finishes and a flag fr one) but feeding the never ending media narrative is another one of many not to do this.

No way! He's so injured these days...he prob gets an early 2nd rounder.

Are you implying that Petracca created the troubles? or just noting that his public stance on them has created a lot of necessary movement.