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'You will need to be pretty good to nail a Half Back spot next season. Garland will need to extract the digit. JKH needs runs on the board. Wagner may explore his options if he can't get a regular game .

That's a contentious argument but then Im not defending Christians nor would I blame them for these conflicts.

Yes. . I think stats back up my point. Christians had trials. Thanks.

The death toll from both sides was huge. The Christians usually held a trial however brief.

Perhaps discounting the Americas .

Prejudiced might be the wrong word. Half baked is wrong also. I hope some of my assertions cause you to read more on the subject but I assure you my knowledge is researched. I don't write from a comfy chair either. I wish had more time to go into further detail. As much as the Dr of Hopping Dicks.

Well Written and researched as ever DJ but none of this contradicts what I've said about 1948. Thankyou for acknowledging the genocidal nature of the Late Ottoman era but I contend it was always done is a similar way and that the Spanish Inquisition is mild by comparison. The numbers killed andthe territory re gathered was minuscule and achieved little. Lets remember Turkey was Christian- Mary was born there they say. Persia was in fact Zoroastrian although they are nearly all dead too.Perhaps the worlds oldest faith- far older than Judaism now residing mostly in N India. I have credited the Ottomans with two inventions already and nobody can really offer up anything else they originated. The Chinese in fact used a pipe bomb in the 11th c which was hand held . The British globalised the drug trade and yet all they get is ridicule. Thank God for Jardine Mathieson and the Royal!!

Yes Stuie , ISIS are winning friends and influencing people everywhere but western decadence is to blame. Persia has grown under the influence of Islam.They all must be wrapt. The worlds finest libraries and antiquities all sacked by the Ottomans. Advancements in maths,Astronomy,music,poetry,shipping and trade , the first culture to make wine- all ruined and wrecked by dogma and every achievement claimed In the name of Allah. The Ottomans can be held responsible perhaps for Muskets and possibly ripping off another version of a sextant for navigation. Before Islam the Persians were travelling along very nicely.

2-12 weeks is a fairly open statement.

Not "in other words". I've written my own. Funny isn't it that these two nations are copping the bulk of terrorist attacks and from men fromthe areas listed above . In truth the Dutch were terrible at running a colony and so were the Spanish largely due to the fact that they lost their fleets to the Royal Navy. If the Dutch had controlled the spice Islands maybe they would be the devils.What they did with their random attacks on the Banda islands was succeed in making Indonesia Muslim because they were as bad as the Ottoman raiders.

That's your opinion. Quite a few races come under that umbrella including Whites and blue eyed aryans from Persia so take your show to Jerry Springer and provoke some outrage there. I have offended abacus users and spice traders everywhere.

Yes Dr John I take your point that the Palestinians had these terms pressed on them. The terms they were offered at the time look increasingly better by the day and I'm not sure the British are responsible for the 3000 year old battle for Israel .

I'm fairly conscious of my actions and words thanks . Both of you made the instant leap to the R word instead of the point I illustrated that the many cultures along the Silk Rd have advanced largely to The Royal Navy. The Ottoman Empire was built on Persian knowledge and Greek . There was no golden period or leap forward in knowledge emanating from the Ottomans. They stole , looted,murdered and raped their way through the Middle East and Europe After Ww1,When the end was near they murdered 3 million Armenians as a final gesture to the world. I don't have much nice to say about them . No offence was directed against any race at all and by your own admission your family were not spice traders anyway.The ottomans were made up of many races?, including white slaves and forced ( Christian) soldiers. I thought my comments were in context of the discussion but I'm aware people are quick to take offence in this modern world so I will apologise to you. I haven't got time to keep defending for every other conquering action of white men in history which I will admit seem to be numerous and often brutal. Im pretty over Demonland as well for this .

Trade or delist?

Maybe you could take special along in the Merc for that road trip you have been promising him for 3 years?

Yes the Black Line or the Black War. Graziers were reporting raids upon properties and Aboriginal tribes sought retribution for their women who had been stolen or " purchased". Batman controlled the line from Launceston to the ocean with the intention of driving any survivors out to Flinders Island to the N/E It was here that Batman grew his ruthless reputation and gained support as a selector in the new colony of Victiria. Touchingly, he took care of a young Aboriginal boy who's parent he had shot. He was all heart.

Also Mount Ben Lomond. The famous founder of our city formed a long line of men with guns there and they marched towards the ocean, shooting men,women and children wherever they stood. Hard to find any tourist markers pointing this out.

I know how you feel Special. Ive been watching grand designs and I feel the urge to put on a black polo and black rim specs before spouting on about glass and light like I invented them.

It must have been the expression " two heads are better than one" that drew him to their unique culture.

And the Monkeys have herpes as well.

I don't view your story inthe mall as relevant to the subject which was white colonialism and its influence on the Middle East . My points were to do with a trendy and lazy tendency to knock white or Euro colonists and my point is that the dominant traders in fact changed the status quo. It has nothing to do with supremacy or superiority but it was all to do with trade and commerce . I empathise with you personally but I've never slandered your relatives mate. I won't say anymore except that the Ottoman Empire is over and was never that wonderful . Also,the colonialists were never that terrible.

I have no reason to invent anything on the matter. Its another example of a failed Arab state unable to deal sensibly with the modern world despite being given the opportunity to manage itself and police itself.

Choke you may not like the phrasing or my descriptor of middle eastern merchants selling spice to to the British but I hAve made no slander against any race. I have no control over what people say to you in the mall. The assumptions and add ons you and Stuie have derived from this are out of control but you have no idea of my thoughts on matters of race . Dont presume to.

If only you knew the extreme reverence I command in my village .Im more like a benevolent Apparition than a German in sandals. The only flesh available will be fish or foul, perhaps pork, dog or frog. You're projecting your own evil intentions on an innocent once again.

These people you mentioned sbove have been self governing for a long time and with the exception of Australian aboriginals who were devastated by White arrival, Were given access to and control of their mineral wealth and other assets such as timber, fisheries, gems and land. Hong Kong is not so happy about the British lease expiring in recent years but the Chinese are pleased to have the international access it provided. Let's remember The borders of the Middle Eastern states have been fairly fluid throughout history and this is no more Napoleons fault than it is Alexander the Greats. One could argue Palestine is a fictitious creation in itself. The Nile Delta has seen many cultures come and go . The Palestinian State can blame others for this fact until it faces inevitable extinction but I can't see Israel retreating. You could blame Britain,France,Holland,Germany etc for this but I'm not convinced that Britain is still to blame for it. Egypt may as well keep blaming Britain or France for their problems as well but it won't fix the problems there. This is my point re history. White dominamce is not so influential as it was so it is pointless to keep assigning fault to What were essentially corporations made up of many nations willing to trade with the British Navy and its Privateers.