Undeeterred

I get it. just can't get on board...

Great job. WJ.

How can you live with yourself???

Oh please stop.

I thought when he said 'sure Luke, sure Luke' he was actually taking the [censored].

Both BT and Bruce have used the term 'turned on a threepenny bit' tonight. Old pricks.

And I swear to Christ if Brian Taylor once more says 'X is under [insert adjective] pressure' I will f rigging spew.

I know Hawthorn winning would be good for us, but I just hate them so, so, so much I can't bring myself to barrack for them. It would be brilliant if they were put out for the year. HATE them. The umpiring is disgusting, in their favour, as bloody usual. Although when things go against them they are being their typical whiny selves. HATE THEM.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-07-28/the-mummys-return-could-be-a-fortnight-away Mumford might not play against us. Huge.

I genuinely think we are better off with Sydney in the top 4, rather than risk meeting them away in week 1... Of course, it would be better for us to be there, but if we can't be, I'd rather Sydney smash Hawthorn and get out of the elimination finals spots.

Which is alarming, because you are scared by most games.

Sorry, did you miss the bit where we won 2-5 games a year for a decade? FCS.

Also loved the way ANB followed it up and gave it to PP as he was getting up. Seriously good stuff from them both.

Are people seriously suggesting Trengove will be brought back in just to captain the side?

Way to bring down a positive thread as usual

Not sure if serious. The only reason ANB would be dropped this week is if his leg fell off on the way to training.

Deadset the most cringeworthy thing about this site...

Completely agree. They'll find someone to manage for a week, but nobody is getting dropped off the back of the last two weeks.

This is a terrible game of footy. Long chains of under pressure handballs then bombs to nobody. Awful stuff.

If that's the case, it has changed. Kids have been drafted straight out of high school for years (Kevin Garnett and Kobe Bryant are the best known examples that jump to mind)

That is a very, very good point.

Well sure, assuming Goodwin works out. Won't look so smooth if we win 6 games next year.

I probably should have resisted and not given it the oxygen it so richly does not deserve...

You have an indescribable knack for making them about you, so stop complaining when it happens.

I think if this were brought in, we'd see even more of a change towards athletes rather than footballers. The way the game has changed since the 1980s and 1990s makes comparisons with those eras a bit redundant in my view.