Undeeterred

In what way?

They're killing us on the break. We are getting caught out of position assuming our players will do simple things like take marks they are supposed to.

The umpires are rubbish but, gee, they shouldn't even be a consideration we should be miles in front of these clowns.

Yet here you are with multiple posts on the thread!

As I said a few weeks ago, who really cares? Even if we make it, we'll play a final against someone like Hawthorn, Geelong, Collingwood or North, any of whom will belt us into next year. Edit: Or GWS or Adelaide!

This. What everybody who says we lost the match with our 50 entries fails to see is that we would have won anyway, despite our 50 entries, if the umpires officiated the game remotely fairly. If we got a fair playing field, and used our entries properly, we would have won by about 15 goals.

He also wraps his stupid lanky arms around people's necks in marking contests, and gets paid frees when they react.

I came on here today literally to post this. Irrational, but I just want to punch his stupid bobble headed free kick gifted face.

This is the most insightful thing anybody has posted thus far.

It was 'fair' but this is why I hate the MRP. He went past the ball to bump and made a bloke cough up blood - why is the MRP focussed on impact, not intention? If he hit him in the head he'd have got 4 weeks, with the same intent to hurt someone.

I disagree - I could see 20 metres away he was going to give it away. He was nowhere near the contest, arrived a full second late, and should have pulled out way earlier. He's just clumsy - I don't blame him necessarily but it was such a critical time to give that away.

With Ling being his typical idiot self and saying 'yeeeeeah, it was a free kick' when it so clearly wasn't.

Well, they did. Because if they literally just blew the game 50/50, we would have won easily no matter how many times we just bombed into a pack. It's just not acceptable for umpires to have any influence whatsoever.

When it boils down to it, really the difference in the last was one mark to Dixon on the line, which was just bad planning, and an idiotic 50m from Oscar when he was nowhere near the ball. I don't think we were too small for the most part - but we did lose it in critical moments when big guys stood up for them

Jordan Lewis getting whiplash 40 out in the last few minutes from someone smacking him on the head.

I counted 7-8 frees that were called the wrong way either against him, or not for him. He had a filthy run. And was super on form as well, should have kicked about 6.

How many utterly 2017 gazelle in headlights frees did McDonald give away?

Never truer words spoken on Demonland.

Utterly disgusting umpiring But gee we do some stupid stuff, ie Oscar's 50m penalty when he was three weeks late, to pick one example

Oh mate, please stop embarrassing yourself! It's cringeworthy.

LOL if you think Sloane is coming to us. And you're kidding yourself if you don't think we need mature players and leaders. Vince and Lewis are both on their last legs so we'll at least need to replace them from a leadership perspective.

What's wrong with an outside running downhill skier in a potentially top 4 team?

What precisely is it about being 5th and a game clear inside the 8 that isn't meeting your expectations?

Lol. Apologies for basically repeating your post.

I definitely trust your gut instinct based on a shift job 30 years ago over multiple contemporary official and unofficial sources.