Macca

You've gotta be happy with Peyton, Cards . 2 seed is up for grabs ...

Yeah , should be a ripper games for your blokes against the Ravens . It's good that it's on 'free to air' for those who haven't got foxtel . I'll definitely be tuning in . Baltimore have won 5 games by 3 points or less this season so it could be another close one . Thought I'd bump up the games as they're on the previous page ... FRI, DEC 07 12.20 PM Denver(9-3) at Oakland (3-9) OneHD & ESPN MON, DEC 10 5.00 AM Baltimore (9-3) at Washington (6-6) OneHD 5.00 AM Dallas (6-6) at Cincinnati (7-5) Fox3 8.25 AM New Orleans (5-7) at NY Giants (7-5) OneHD 8.25 AM Arizona (4-8) at Seattle (7-5) Fox3 12.20 PM Detroit (4-8) at Green Bay (8-4) OneHD & ESPN TUE, DEC 11 12.30 PM Houston (11-1) at New England (9-3) ESPN * For all other games you can visit this link

Good set of match-ups for week 14 on the box . Not too many teams represented from this thread but some good games nonetheless ... FRI, DEC 07 12.20 PM Denver(9-3) at Oakland (3-9) OneHD & ESPN MON, DEC 10 5.00 AM Baltimore (9-3) at Washington (6-6) OneHD 5.00 AM Dallas (6-6) at Cincinnati (7-5) Fox3 8.25 AM New Orleans (5-7) at NY Giants (7-5) OneHD 8.25 AM Arizona (4-8) at Seattle (7-5) Fox3 12.20 PM Detroit (4-8) at Green Bay (8-4) OneHD & ESPN TUE, DEC 11 12.30 PM Houston (11-1) at New England (9-3) ESPN For all other games you can visit this link

Here's one from 'Hall and Oates . This song was written about the then impending comeback of the 'Four Seasons' and in particular, Frankie Valli ... Macca's 70's 11.6

Nothing like some good old fashioned divisional rivalry hey ! All good . I can only imagine what's it's like in the States . A few of you have experienced it first hand yeah ? I've read a bit about the rivalry's but the Ravens/Steelers has to be the 'Biggie' at the moment . Packers/Bears is fierce as well . Anyway, if the Rams 'Win out' they might sneak in - ya just never know . It's not very likely but it is possible . A whole lot of other things would have to happen but I've seen loads of strange occurrences in this League over the journey . It is a huge ask (given their remaining schedule) but if the Rams can get past the Bills this week and the 'Unthinkable' happens and Arizona beat Seattle then that 6th seed is up for grabs . Arizona might need to find an 'Offence' in a hurry though ! The Packers and the Bears need to keep winning to ensure qualification and San Francisco have also got a couple of tough games to come . This QB 'switcheroo' might have it's drawbacks ! It's nowhere near done yet . The only real safe bet is Atlanta getting the no.1 seed - they're 2 and a half wins clear in the conference with 4 games to play . I can't see them slipping up . The AFC is a lot clearer, of course . Once again , here is the playoff picture . Edit : I discovered the 'Playoff Machine' on the ESPN website . It's like the AFL ladder predictor . Each time I've gone through the remaining games the Bears have ended up missing the playoffs altogether .

Ha ha ! I had a look at 'Packer Chatters' a ways back . It's really funny/strange - the same sort of threads such as 'The Good the Bad and the Ugly' , 'End of Season Changes' and the always ever present 'OK, so now what?' are there . I even had a fleeting thought of joining up . May do one day . It's uncanny how similar the threads are though . Reckon some of the under performing teams fan sites would be 'Interesting' reading . San Diego and Philadelphia for instance . Dallas would be another . Edit : Here come the Redskins ... good tough win at home and that division is right up for grabs now . RG3 is managing games very very well considering he's a rookie . On top of that, Washington lead the League in rushing yards with RB, Alfred Morris having a great rookie season as well . So many teams in the mix in the NFC . This next month is usually a great one for big clashes . A sneak peak to next week's games sees Dallas @ Cinci, the Bears @ Minnesota, the Ravens @ Washington and Houston @ New England . Here is the schedule for week 14

Can't see Clarke getting moved from no.5 now (unless under extraordinary circumstances) . Reckon the Tasmanian, Alex Doolan will come in and bat at no.3 with Watson moving to 4 . Or Doolan will bat at 4 and Watson stays at 3 . The other 4 batsmen are doing enough in their spots . An article about the possible selection of Doolan appeared a couple of days ago . You can go to this link to read the story .

Have only seen edited highlights of our game so far . Relieved to get the win really . AP is one hell of a running back . The Vikes are gonna have to finish the season well to make the playoffs but ya never know in this sport . Every game played by the contenders is like a mini final from here on in . Some teams will 'Win out' whilst others will stumble . The Giants last year and the Pack the year before had to win their last couple just to get in the playoffs . I wouldn't be conceding until it's mathematically impossible (it's weird how it works , I wanted Seattle to win today and now I want them to lose all their games except when they play the Niners - go figure !) . Houston and Atlanta may be able to 'Rest' their starters soon as well . As you're no doubt aware , Minnesota play the Texans in week 16 . Here's how the contenders sit after today's games ... Playoff standings

That's a huge win by the Steelers . Gets them right back into contention with Big Ben to return (when is he back?) . Seattle winning helps my blokes big time . The Seahawks still have 3 games at home to come including a big clash against the 49ers in a few weeks . The Colts are now 8-4 and playoff bound you'd reckon . Who would have predicted that at the start of the season ? Luck has really proved his worth and it's looking like a win/win with the Broncos going to 9-3 after today's victory . The Bengals picked up a must win in San Diego and that week 16 clash at Pittsburgh may well decide a wild-card spot . Edit : Just watched the press conference's of the Head Coach and QB of the Chiefs (Romeo Crennel and Brady Quinn) . Both spoke exceptionally well, given the circumstances .

Yes , agreed . It's hard to know what the NFL Commission could do without changing the very nature of the sport . Maybe if they outlawed 'Leading' with the helmet under any circumstances ? You're still going to get lots of incidental contact anyway . Of course , we don't know the exact details with the latest distressing happenings but it's safe to assume that many will believe that it's related to concussion's and depression . I feel very sorry for all concerned .

MON, DEC 3 5.00 AM New England (8-3) at Miami (5-6) OneHD 5.00 AM Seattle (6-5) at Chicago (8-3) Fox2 8.05 AM Tampa Bay (6-5) at Denver (8-3) OneHD 8.25 AM Pittsburgh (6-5) at Baltimore (9-2) Fox2 12.20 PM Philadelphia (3-8) at Dallas (5-6) OneHD & ESPN TUE, DEC 4 12.30 PM NY Giants (7-4) at Washington (5-6) ESPN For all other games ... Week 13

I wonder about the help that people can get in the States when faced with this sort of crises . We may never fully know the reasons why this latest tragedy occurred . It may be concussion related and it may not be .

Chuck Loeb and his crew with a rendition of 'Sunny' called 'Sonnymoon' . This song currently tops the Jazz charts in the States ... Macca's jazz 5.2

Now he drops a 'Soda' . It's a cruel game ...

Remarkable catch . It's been a dirty day but that was one hell of an effort from Lyon .

Johnno !

Bill Simmons weekly column can be found http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8694627/the-year-living-cautiously'>here ... Some quotes

We might be chasing a few in our 2nd innings Steyn right at the top of his game . Philander not far behind him . Morkel lurking . We're in allsortsa . Reverse mozz required

Creedence ... Macca's 60's 11.4

This weeks games on the tele ... FRI, NOV 30 12.20 PM New Orleans (5-6) at Atlanta (10-1) ESPN MON, DEC 3 5.00 AM New England (8-3) at Miami (5-6) OneHD 5.00 AM Seattle (6-5) at Chicago (8-3) Fox2 8.05 AM Tampa Bay (6-5) at Denver (8-3) OneHD 8.25 AM Pittsburgh (6-5) at Baltimore (9-2) Fox2 12.20 PM Philadelphia (3-8) at Dallas (5-6) OneHD & ESPN TUE, DEC 4 12.30 PM NY Giants (7-4) at Washington (5-6) ESPN For all other games ... Week 13

This is how I reckon the selectors will go ... Cowan Warner Watson Ponting Clarke Hussey Wade Johnson Siddle/Hilfenhaus (one misses out due to fitness and/or 'rested') Starc Lyon Johnson is in the squad which leads me to believe he will play . From all accounts he's got a bit of his mojo back and a yard of pace . Been working with DK (who is pleased with his progress) . Means we'd have 2 lefties in the side but in Perth that may well be an advantage . Hazlewood is a bit of a risk in such an important game though he is coming on and they might go with him . Would be surprised if they went with Hilfo and Siddle again . Our attack has lacked a bit variation and Starc must have been close to playing in Adelaide . I'm not making any predictions because I'm a mozz .

I see the Packers are 9 point favourites . That's way too much . Should be more like 4.5 . Reckon they're overestimating Green Bay and underestimating the Vikes . I'm a shocking tipster (esp in the NFL) but I can't see there being much between the sides in the finish . Foxtel have got the early game (5am Monday) listed as Detroit vs Green Bay but I've got a hunch it's meant to be our game . I reckon the Packers have been on the box every week bar one, (at the Colts) so I can't complain .

Yep, ditto for the Packers - never really in the game . Just a bad day at Black Rock (that's the movie, not the beachside suburb) . There wasn't any real pressure put on Eli and besides that, nothing else seemed to work . Just write it off and move forward . Those Giants stepped it up and they only needed a win like this for everyone to get the jitters . They're starting to annoy me (again) Only solace is that Seattle and Tampa Bay lost . Keeps the wild-card spots attainable for both our sides . Another huge game next week at Lambeau hey 'cfh'. Pittsburgh are now looking a bit shaky - losing to the Browns . That could be costly . The 49ers seemed to have the Saints covered from early in the 3rd quarter . Didn't get to see the whole game but Brees was sacked 5 times and the 'niners' got 2 picks for TD's . Denver are now 8-3 and are a sneaky chance to get to the 2 seed . The Ravens sure now how to win close games - they've now won 5 games by 3 points or less Here are the playoff standings after today .

That's the thing about this League ......... I'm neither confident nor pessimistic - it's so frustrating ! We kinda know how the 'Pack' are gonna go . When they hit form it basically means that Rodgers is dominating and the rest of the team are 'Doing their bit' . But with the Giants who the hell knows ? They're capable of anything and Eli is the same . Any sort of win will suffice . Happy to win with a late 'Safety'. It'll be a great atmosphere in New York . Your game will be much the same . These divisional games are immense, especially when there's so much riding on the result . I think you can win it . Cutler seems the type who needs to play all the time - the week off with concussion could hinder him . Ponder was decent last week . That Lions defensive line can be a little intimidating ! A lot will depend on AP It's a terrific line-up of games . The Saints have a real chance to keep their streak alive . I expect the 49ers to win but Brees may have a big say in this game . He's an absolute gun .

Yeah , Starc is next cab off the rank so you'd reckon he'll come in for Patto . Let's just hope Cummins and Pattinson are fit and ready to go when we go to England next year . We've got a tour to India to come as well (Feb/March, 4 Tests) . Some tricky selection issues to address - not the least being how we 'manage' our quicks .