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OneHD are only showing 2 games (live) in week 15 due to their coverage of the swimming and golf . For those with cable, there are some excellent match-ups ...as DemonDave made mention, there's some great games on offer this week . Season definers abound!! FRI, DEC 14 12.20 PM Cincinnati at Philadelphia ESPN MON, DEC 17 5.00 AM Green Bay at Chicago Fox3 8.05 AM Detroit at Arizona OneHD 8.25 AM Pittsburgh at Dallas Fox3 12.20 PM San Francisco at New England ESPN & OneHD TUE, DEC 18 12.30 PM NY Jets at Tennessee ESPN For all other games you can go to this site

Seems the MVP debate is on in earnest at the moment . It might be out of Peyton and Peterson . Brady would have to be a big chance after today . He really is silk . Had a listen to a bit New England radio today and the consensus there is that Tom doesn't get enough of the individual plaudits . Of course they're a bit biased, but some good points were made . One point being that Belichick takes away some of the limelight and vice-versa . Think Peyton has won 4 MVP's whilst Brady has won twice . The Adrian Peterson story is hard to top though . He could break the all time record for the most yards in a season . This, after coming back from a torn ACL . Eric Dickerson holds the record with 2,105 . AP currently has 1600 with 3 games to go . Here are the passing stats and the RB and WR stats can be found here and here .

Another classic from Dave Brubeck ... his music will always live on .

Quite a number on this thread had wins in week 14 - Giants, Jets, Rams, Eagles, Broncos, Vikings, Redskins, 49ers, Seahawks and my Packers (after a very slow start) all got up . KC let 'pantaloons' down but all up, that's not a bad return for us success starved Demons . Fairly sure we've got a Texans fan here as well . Looking forward to tomorrow's game - both teams have a lot to play for ... Anyway, here is the playoff picture after today .

Count me in .

Yep , that NFC wild-card race is on for young and old . Big win for the Vikings 'cfh' - I was barracking for your blokes (this week anyway!!) Tampa losing will hurt them and you could nearly rule them out now . The Bears might be in trouble if Cutler misses a game or 2 (they reckon he'll play next week vs the Packers but it is a neck injury .... ) How bad are Arizona ? Seattle are a sneaky chance to win the NFC West but they'd need a couple of things to happen . That game vs San Francisco could decide things . The Rams aren't going away either . Let's hope that RG3 comes up ok for next week - it's been such a great story so far . Dallas kept their hopes alive with a come from behind win and the Giants had a reasonably comfortable victory . The Eagles finally get a 'W' and with it , virtually ending the Bucs season . Pittsburgh lose again and they're a serious chance of missing the playoffs . They visit Dallas next week then face a possible season definer at home vs the Bengals . The Colts just keep marching along - Luck is very good in the 'Big' moments . So many teams are a chance this year and tomorrow's game between Houston and New England should be a beauty . Denver will be interested onlookers . In other stunning news - the Jets are a game back from a playoff spot - whooda thunk-it !! (though I think the Steelers win the tie-break over them) . The Jets last 3 games are - @ Tennessee , vs San Diego and @ Buffalo .

Just had another look at 'The Pelican Brief' again after all these years . Might have a re-look at some of the other films based on John Grisham's novels . Here's the IMDb links for some of the better adaptations ... The Firm , The Pelican Brief , The Client , The Rainmaker and Runaway Jury .

Well you're right, Manning won't be around forever but the mentality is a little different over there . It's often about the 'Right now' and I tend to agree with this type of thinking (sometimes) . Teams that are continually building for the future often end up perpetually building . The reality is that the Broncos are a legitimate contender now and good on 'em . Elway knows what he wants and he's not mucking around . If you can somehow snag that 2 seed and play your 1st playoff game in the 2nd week then you're a real show . Houston will probably get the 1 seed but they're not guaranteed a win straight off in the playoffs . Especially if they have to play New England . Huge home field advantage at Denver (as you well know) . Good solid win yesterday btw - that's 8 in a row .

You've gotta be happy with Peyton, Cards . 2 seed is up for grabs ...

Yeah , should be a ripper games for your blokes against the Ravens . It's good that it's on 'free to air' for those who haven't got foxtel . I'll definitely be tuning in . Baltimore have won 5 games by 3 points or less this season so it could be another close one . Thought I'd bump up the games as they're on the previous page ... FRI, DEC 07 12.20 PM Denver(9-3) at Oakland (3-9) OneHD & ESPN MON, DEC 10 5.00 AM Baltimore (9-3) at Washington (6-6) OneHD 5.00 AM Dallas (6-6) at Cincinnati (7-5) Fox3 8.25 AM New Orleans (5-7) at NY Giants (7-5) OneHD 8.25 AM Arizona (4-8) at Seattle (7-5) Fox3 12.20 PM Detroit (4-8) at Green Bay (8-4) OneHD & ESPN TUE, DEC 11 12.30 PM Houston (11-1) at New England (9-3) ESPN * For all other games you can visit this link

Good set of match-ups for week 14 on the box . Not too many teams represented from this thread but some good games nonetheless ... FRI, DEC 07 12.20 PM Denver(9-3) at Oakland (3-9) OneHD & ESPN MON, DEC 10 5.00 AM Baltimore (9-3) at Washington (6-6) OneHD 5.00 AM Dallas (6-6) at Cincinnati (7-5) Fox3 8.25 AM New Orleans (5-7) at NY Giants (7-5) OneHD 8.25 AM Arizona (4-8) at Seattle (7-5) Fox3 12.20 PM Detroit (4-8) at Green Bay (8-4) OneHD & ESPN TUE, DEC 11 12.30 PM Houston (11-1) at New England (9-3) ESPN For all other games you can visit this link

Here's one from 'Hall and Oates . This song was written about the then impending comeback of the 'Four Seasons' and in particular, Frankie Valli ... Macca's 70's 11.6

Nothing like some good old fashioned divisional rivalry hey ! All good . I can only imagine what's it's like in the States . A few of you have experienced it first hand yeah ? I've read a bit about the rivalry's but the Ravens/Steelers has to be the 'Biggie' at the moment . Packers/Bears is fierce as well . Anyway, if the Rams 'Win out' they might sneak in - ya just never know . It's not very likely but it is possible . A whole lot of other things would have to happen but I've seen loads of strange occurrences in this League over the journey . It is a huge ask (given their remaining schedule) but if the Rams can get past the Bills this week and the 'Unthinkable' happens and Arizona beat Seattle then that 6th seed is up for grabs . Arizona might need to find an 'Offence' in a hurry though ! The Packers and the Bears need to keep winning to ensure qualification and San Francisco have also got a couple of tough games to come . This QB 'switcheroo' might have it's drawbacks ! It's nowhere near done yet . The only real safe bet is Atlanta getting the no.1 seed - they're 2 and a half wins clear in the conference with 4 games to play . I can't see them slipping up . The AFC is a lot clearer, of course . Once again , here is the playoff picture . Edit : I discovered the 'Playoff Machine' on the ESPN website . It's like the AFL ladder predictor . Each time I've gone through the remaining games the Bears have ended up missing the playoffs altogether .

Ha ha ! I had a look at 'Packer Chatters' a ways back . It's really funny/strange - the same sort of threads such as 'The Good the Bad and the Ugly' , 'End of Season Changes' and the always ever present 'OK, so now what?' are there . I even had a fleeting thought of joining up . May do one day . It's uncanny how similar the threads are though . Reckon some of the under performing teams fan sites would be 'Interesting' reading . San Diego and Philadelphia for instance . Dallas would be another . Edit : Here come the Redskins ... good tough win at home and that division is right up for grabs now . RG3 is managing games very very well considering he's a rookie . On top of that, Washington lead the League in rushing yards with RB, Alfred Morris having a great rookie season as well . So many teams in the mix in the NFC . This next month is usually a great one for big clashes . A sneak peak to next week's games sees Dallas @ Cinci, the Bears @ Minnesota, the Ravens @ Washington and Houston @ New England . Here is the schedule for week 14

Can't see Clarke getting moved from no.5 now (unless under extraordinary circumstances) . Reckon the Tasmanian, Alex Doolan will come in and bat at no.3 with Watson moving to 4 . Or Doolan will bat at 4 and Watson stays at 3 . The other 4 batsmen are doing enough in their spots . An article about the possible selection of Doolan appeared a couple of days ago . You can go to this link to read the story .

Have only seen edited highlights of our game so far . Relieved to get the win really . AP is one hell of a running back . The Vikes are gonna have to finish the season well to make the playoffs but ya never know in this sport . Every game played by the contenders is like a mini final from here on in . Some teams will 'Win out' whilst others will stumble . The Giants last year and the Pack the year before had to win their last couple just to get in the playoffs . I wouldn't be conceding until it's mathematically impossible (it's weird how it works , I wanted Seattle to win today and now I want them to lose all their games except when they play the Niners - go figure !) . Houston and Atlanta may be able to 'Rest' their starters soon as well . As you're no doubt aware , Minnesota play the Texans in week 16 . Here's how the contenders sit after today's games ... Playoff standings

That's a huge win by the Steelers . Gets them right back into contention with Big Ben to return (when is he back?) . Seattle winning helps my blokes big time . The Seahawks still have 3 games at home to come including a big clash against the 49ers in a few weeks . The Colts are now 8-4 and playoff bound you'd reckon . Who would have predicted that at the start of the season ? Luck has really proved his worth and it's looking like a win/win with the Broncos going to 9-3 after today's victory . The Bengals picked up a must win in San Diego and that week 16 clash at Pittsburgh may well decide a wild-card spot . Edit : Just watched the press conference's of the Head Coach and QB of the Chiefs (Romeo Crennel and Brady Quinn) . Both spoke exceptionally well, given the circumstances .

Yes , agreed . It's hard to know what the NFL Commission could do without changing the very nature of the sport . Maybe if they outlawed 'Leading' with the helmet under any circumstances ? You're still going to get lots of incidental contact anyway . Of course , we don't know the exact details with the latest distressing happenings but it's safe to assume that many will believe that it's related to concussion's and depression . I feel very sorry for all concerned .

MON, DEC 3 5.00 AM New England (8-3) at Miami (5-6) OneHD 5.00 AM Seattle (6-5) at Chicago (8-3) Fox2 8.05 AM Tampa Bay (6-5) at Denver (8-3) OneHD 8.25 AM Pittsburgh (6-5) at Baltimore (9-2) Fox2 12.20 PM Philadelphia (3-8) at Dallas (5-6) OneHD & ESPN TUE, DEC 4 12.30 PM NY Giants (7-4) at Washington (5-6) ESPN For all other games ... Week 13

I wonder about the help that people can get in the States when faced with this sort of crises . We may never fully know the reasons why this latest tragedy occurred . It may be concussion related and it may not be .

Chuck Loeb and his crew with a rendition of 'Sunny' called 'Sonnymoon' . This song currently tops the Jazz charts in the States ... Macca's jazz 5.2

Now he drops a 'Soda' . It's a cruel game ...

Remarkable catch . It's been a dirty day but that was one hell of an effort from Lyon .

Johnno !

Bill Simmons weekly column can be found http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8694627/the-year-living-cautiously'>here ... Some quotes