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The players are out there losing the game. If you were 1 of the players would you blame the coach? I know I certainly wouldn't have It was a pea-hearted effort from the players and they should be ashamed of themselves We could blame Goodwin for the game plan but that same game plan saw us dominate the game for 3 quarters No, the players got ahead of themselves again Gawn, Viney, Petracca & Oliver should have made sure of the win They failed miserably, again

Well a few years ago he won a flag for us with an untainted list Now, the list is a rabble I'm not expecting the team to improve under a possible new coach ... unless, we trade aggressively and clear out the deadwood (that's if anyone wants them) Same sort of list? 10 wins Max, bub. They are past their use-by date The game has passed by many of our players. Most of all we are too slow in the legs. Plodders everywhere e.g. ... as soon as the Saints woke up yesterday and used their leg speed, we were left floundering. It took one quarter after we had dominated for 3 quarters We are easily exposed. Goodwin's error is sticking with players who he should have moved on. Being loyal has cost him

Would he? Gee wizz, that would mean that our bunch of no-hopers would have to actually listen, learn & adapt I can't see it as I reckon at least half our list is cooked Maybe with an overhauled list but we could do that with Goodwin still in charge

The football world would know about the baggage surrounding a number of our players ... as would a new, perspective coach That's if Goodwin is moved on of course A win against the Eagles and improved efforts against the Bulldogs, Hawks & Pies will probably see Goodwin survive into next season (there's the financial hit to consider as well) The players would be fully aware of the pressure coming at Goodwin? Will they lift for their coach and somehow snag a win or 2 in the last 3 rounds? We're capable but which version of the team will turn up? Lose to the Eagles and all bets are off

Spot on and that's the way I see it as well 'Just do enough' The trouble is that they've taken advantage of Goodwin's caring nature for the players. So we end up with the cart before the horse But in my view he'll ultimately be the fall guy and the players will get off the hook However, I well remember that Adelaide cleared out McGuiness, McDermott, Anderson & Andrew Jarman before Blight took over (under instructions from the incumbent?) Perhaps history will repeat as the Crows won 2 flags starting from Blight's 2nd year

Not sure, buddy What do you reckon?

Not only that but the Oliver fiasco and various other off-field incidents We're not a happy team and there's a disconnect amongst the senior players They are just playing for themselves and our general teamwork is woeful We've gone from selfless to selfish in a very short space of time. Every man for themselves Sure, we can turn it on at times but we're like Jeckyl & Hyde. Can't be trusted The coach might be on his way out but the list needs to be turned over. We need hungry experienced talent and we need to clear out the deadwood Any player who wants out needs to be traded

Goodwin won't be quitting Who walks away from $Millions? Not going to happen Of much greater concern is the state of the list. We won't be challenging for finals anytime soon even with a new coach We're too slow and we look old. Skills are woeful and many of the players have checked out anyway We've got a mountain of problems

As for the players ... Coach killers just like in 2011 & 2013 They rule the roost and I'm surprised more people here can't see it They've let themselves down, the jumper and the coach But they'll still receive their fat cheques. Lazy bludgers

And I'm not your mate You take a walk Laddie Anyway, you'll probably get your wish with Goodwin but the make-up of the team will still be full of plodders

I tell no lies The reason it was not included in the review is quite obvious so you and others need to learn how to read between the lines He was very nearly sacked back then and why would he voluntarily put himself on the bench whilst leaving all the game-day moves to Yze You are the one who needs to stop telling lies about me Stick to gossip, that's what you are good at. How many gossip threads have you started here? 200? Wake up

Of course it wasn't mentioned Are you aware of how spin works in sport? Goodwin went close to being sacked in late Sept 2020 so they made changes to his role instead Wake wakey dizzle

Do your own research SFebes I'm working from my memory and I know I'm right

2 of our starting 4 out of the middle have been avoiding contact all season What sort of an example does that set for the rest of the team and the youngsters? What does happen is that sort of stuff can spread through the team in no time. And the opposition know full well too Teams come at us and we jump out of the way. Our senior players should have taken it upon themselves to secure the win yesterday But they went missing Stop blaming the coach for the players faults. They're well paid and can think and act for themselves

BS ... you are the one making stuff up. As per usual Forget 2025, that was not the year I was talking about. In 2021 Goodwin was relegated to the bench and more power was given to Yze upstairs as a consequence. The rest of it was spin so as to not embarrass Goodwin further Don't forget that he was close to being sacked back then? How is your memory? And I am right You can prove otherwise so like your little sidekick, stop wasting everyone's time

Our senior players lost the game. They thought the game was done They don't work hard enough. Big heads

Spin? He was put there after the 2020 FD review Do your own homework Haven't you chucked in your membership? Given up?

Fair enough I'm way more with the lack effort and putrid performances of our experienced players Play well regardless of the coaches message

The players lost the game yesterday Not the coach

Good points BDA And well balanced. Refreshing

Ah yes, but you did start with insults Live by the sword And anyone who lays all the blame at Goodwins feet is clueless And it was imbecilic obsession ... get it right

You can dish it out but can't cop it back

Go back a page and you'll see the relevance A conversation I had with @Lucifers Hero about what powers Goodwin has within the FD

@KozzyCan I noticed that you continually slag off at any number of players on OTHER threads but not on this thread Why is that? Don't want to spoil your own blinkered narrative As for the insults... you started that stuff Still arguing with yourself in the shower?

It's not BS He was put on the bench for the 2021 season ... I never referenced this season Learn how to read posts properly and stop wasting everyone's time