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Injuries and tom mac playing 40m off jack r cost us.  Players were spent in last quarter.  Also, viney shadow of former self - and feel like we've got leaders with heart but no footy smarts.

ANB shi@e for brains.  

Tom Mac needs to get closer to reiwold or frost needs to go him.

Jones :-  Lack of Leadership.      When the freo run was on I watched him closely.  No voice, no marshalling the troops, no sprays......  after each goal he just trudged back to the centre with his head down.

Bernie :-  Makes Stupid Decision.    Don't think the game has passed him, but he's made and attempted stupid plays all his career.

Overall I think the gameplay of manic play on and throw the ball around until hopefully someone is in space is to compensate for our lack of leg speed.  Unfortunately, not any options in the twos with real pace.

With Lewis it was good coaching from Bolton. He put an offensive tagger in Curnow (aerobic beast) with the instruction to run Lewis off his feet -  I think that made him look slow as he was absolutely spent. 

I watched him in packs and he's got a great knack at hurting blokes, excellent at positioning team mates with instructions and when hunt blazed at goal from boundary instead of centreing ball Lewis gave him a great spray  - all priceless attributes.

Really well run by the club -  and the players are great with the kids.  Got to say Jack Watts was a stand out as usual -  a real natural with kids and goes above and beyond with supporters.

Did anyone see Hoges?  I didn't and was concerned as he seemed to have a leg injury late in the game against Dogs.

Incredibly good first year considering he wasn't even fit.  Hands and work in close already elite -  can push forward and create a goal -  so, so, so much better than petracca but trac seems to break one tackle and have the commentators drooling

4 hours ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

I am a little concerned about the times being run.  I have no idea what the industry standard is these days, but several years ago the media experts were saying that an AFL midfielder needed to do the 3km in around the 9.30  mark.  From the sound of it we only have a few players who can crack 10 minutes.  Assuming that the goalposts haven't moved this is a bad sign and shows we're still going to struggle against sides that can run. 

Sub 10min for an AFL footballer (who has to carry plenty of muscle) is elite.....  at any club.  Also, last year the majority of guys shaved a lot of time off by the end of pre-season as you'd expect.  

7 hours ago, Wrecker45 said:

Anyone know how Oliver, Kent or Benken went.

In photos BenKen trailing Watts -  not a great sign for someone who wants to rotate through midfield.

Just saying -  I would bloody love Jordan Lewis to come to Dees -  he maybe on his last legs but he's still leadership and footy smarts personified -  someone you'd always want in the trenches.

6 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Dees to grab pick 21 off the Lions but offering pick 30 and either Dunn, Dawes, JKH or even  Spencer (can grab 1-2 rucks in the draft).

Lewis for pick 21 is fair ... a steal but the Hawks need to deal now.

Hibberd for MFC 2nd round pick in 2017 draft.  

Gets us Lewis, Hibberd and keeps 2017 1st rounder.

21 for Lewis - jesus, stick to your day job pal

hands, vision, hard and competitive...... In the words of Bruce... delicious! 

34 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Why? when they potentially could have Patton and Hogan.

Don't forget theres another club called West Coast who just as interested as Freo for Hogan.

This would leave Freo with the ability to offer Dee's pick 3 & 7 for Hogan -  and they'd have a fwd line set up for the next decade with Hogan & Patton.

Would certainly give dees something to think about especially as we could lose him for  nothing in 4 years time if free agency compo is removed as spoken about.

I've read a couple of times on twitter tonight that at past players function today it was stated Jesse will be signing a 2 year extension next week -  so with Dees for another 3 years at least.  Anyone able to confirm? Any past players on this site?

Christ -  that got me unnecessarily excited.  Obst was one of MFC's / AFL's most underrated players -  he was pure class.

We should be all over this -  free agent -  free hit -  we must have plenty in the cap over the next 2 years.....

YES from me….    Just like Cross.  Best trainer at Crows and will then transition into coaching.

As observation about Goodwin -  he likes to surround himself with friends -  Hibbert, Melksham, Sanderson, Thompson -  needs to make sure he can draw professional line.

Trenners needs to be given another year -  and a speed coach.  Perhaps John Quinn who found Jobe Watson a yard of pace. 

Unfortunately Grimes kicking and decision making will see him behind Hibbert, Malkshem, Salem, Hunt, Wagner off the half back flank.

This is meant to be comical isn't it?

Nope....

i think this would be of interest to them -  id keep garland though

VDB out for Trenners.    Would like to JT given a go at marking half forward / defensive forward role.  Think he's a better mark, kick and smarter than Vanders.

This kid is a bloody star - not just speed,. His positional and defensive acts are first class.  

Pederson :. What a bump

Hunt  : best game yet

Assume Tom is a free agent in 2 years -  we'll go through all of this speculation again in another 12 months!! 

Awesome news -  his turnovers kill me -  but it's the toughest gap to fill in the footy these days and I think he's close to one of the the top 5 key defenders in the comp.