Very Jaded

Very busy counting his paycheck

Someone has to

So if he asked “didn’t that hit the ground first” it would be ok?

GWS have to be the worst team of the best players going around

Wrong thread

So you think that every umpire pays that as a 50m penalty? Maybe I missed it but I never heard the AFL say that players can’t question decisions. They said players can’t be demonstrative or abusive and it’s about respect. But respect to some is disrespect to others. You can love and respect someone and still disagree with them. Expressing disappointment or disagreement in my opinion is not disrespectful, but in your opinion it is. Hence the core problem with this rule. Which is why we will either watch this rule slowly die or we will just get to a point where we encourage players not to talk to umpires at all.

I actually have no issues with the reasoning behind the rule. My only issue is how grey the interpretation is. If a player is saying “it hit the ground it hit the ground” one umpire will think “fair enough maybe it did bad luck” and one umpire will think “he’s questioning my ability to umpire it’s a 50m penalty”. That one comment would be interpreted differently by every single umpire, because as humans we all have varying responses to things being said to us. I don’t care if the rule was actually as black and white as, nobody speaks to an umpire unless it’s a captain and it’s at a break. The only thing you can say to an umpire is “where is my mark” if you’re standing on the mark or “who has the free” if you’re handing the ball back. That is an easy rule to umpire and an easy rule to follow.

But that was not how the rule was explained by Scott this week. So are the rules changing on the fly? The rule was brought in to reduce umpire abuse and disrespect. Why not just say the rule is don’t talk to the umpire? Because that is a very simple rule to follow. I don’t see what he did as complaining. You do. This is where the rule is too grey and personal and can’t be consistently umpired. Edit: do you think that players should be penalized if they ask the umpire for a holding the ball or a deliberate out of bounds free? Because often players put their arms out/up and question if there is a free to be paid. Is that dissent if the umpire chooses not to pay it?

How was what he did dissent tho? He wasn’t rude. He wasn’t demonstrative. He wasn’t argumentative. He stated a fact and he was correct. The rule is now “don’t talk to umpires”? If it is fine, but last week it was don’t put arms out, and I’ve seen 3 already go unpunished. The dissent rule is impossible to umpire consistently.

He said it hit the ground and he was correct. So now you can’t even say something which happened? FMD

Dissent. 50 meters.

You know Canberra is boring when GWS is pulling fans to games.

Well we have officially not beaten one side I reckon could make the 8 #beatennobody

Me watching the umpire dissent rule changing week to week, minute to minute

Channel 7 just said both Lever and Viney could have technically played since the close contact rules ease tonight but they haven’t trained this week so we are being cautious. I have no doubt we are giving Lever a rest with that foot. Just hope Viney doesn’t have any foot issues again which we are disguising as Covid related protocols. It does appear as tho the easing of close contact rules will apply thru the AFL for the relevant states. Suck it WA 😂

Clearly it started yesterday at the earliest, which means they should be done by next Thursday, making it very easy for them to be available for a Saturday afternoon game at home. Can’t see any issues with them missing unless they either have Covid now or catch it during their iso period, which is not even a thing anymore.

I’m giving GWS a massive chance. Greene completely changes their side. I still don’t rate St Kilda.

Good balanced changes considering we never want to be without Lever or Viney. Massive chance for Dunstan. He would want to have a bloody good game if he’s to displace one of our other mids, which can only be a good thing. I imagine it won’t be smooth sailing and it might take a half for him to settle in. Tigers are missing Dusty and Grimes which just about equals us missing Viney and Lever.

A few 'season defining' games coming up this round. Geelong and Brisbane with the easy wins coming up is annoying.

Sub?

We don’t play those games.

I suggest Tmac goes back and Gus goes to the wing with JJ in the middle to help out without Viney.

Weid named in the starting 18.

You would think Dunstan for Viney, but then I look at the interchange and you can’t drop Harmes, Jackson, Sparrow or JJ

Well that sucks.