demon3165

It takes a while before he gets it.....lol

Well NC had said himself that he properly stayed one year to many but they were a well drilled and disciplined side so Sanderson did not have to drill that into them, as for MN don't think Malthouse would have made him his right hand man for nothing and as for DM his record speaks for itself, the swans and the saints both played a hard running game and during his time they had a majority of there senior players out on the park all the time and they were wildly recognised as one of the fittest sides going around at that time. I believe that prior to them coming to the club the football club the boards did not know how to run a successful football club more so the football department and what was needed, you only have to look at the setup of the football department now compared to past years. I have an old saying " if you want to change a culture you have to show them the culture" that is what they are doing.

Unlike some here, I like the way MN, NC and DM are building the club, and yes it will take another year of solid pre-season to take us to another step but it is worth it, I would like to be playing finals football every year and we might even snag a flag, and that is better than just getting there one year and not the next that is just as hard as we are now. These three know how to build a club and if anyone here thinks they don't then you don't know much on how a successful football club is really built. We were that far behind all the other clubs fitness wise, skill wise and to a lesser extent smart football brains. Yes we are all disappointed that it is taking another coach to come in and start again but by hell this time the Board and the football department are all on the same page no player running to the board, no board members talking to the players and that is because everyone knows there role and that is what the players are learning. So we now go into another year not knowing what to expect, and I for one will not go on the amount of wins but how we we compete when the chips are down, which players dig in and play their role, who steps up and goes harder even more, and when you get 22 players doing the same thing that's when clubs become successful for long periods of time.

LMFAO.........I just don't believe it............

What are you his bodyguard, so lets deal with something here, he has opened his mouth posting rubbish to the point he now really believes it when asked for facts he cannot produce them but still reply's with the same rubbish, I am allowed to question him or do you just believe in what ever he says, as for your reply's your are resorting to the same thing about me, so how about following your own rules.........

Again you haven't answered my question, so I take it that there are no facts to back you up......no problem.

Well point me to the facts, not what you think, where has it been said that the Dee's will be thrown off the G if the blue baggers manage to play out of the G?

Yeah maybe, but when when people try to defend their view with utter crap without facts to back it up and have a need to be right then I suppose I should tone it down I should no better..........but hey "i'm not qualified remember"

You believe your right and thats your right, on the other hand I believe your completely wrong and I know i'm right so lets leave it at that eh!! over and out.

Not qualified eh and you are? best you contact Jeff Kennett, he might be able to get in touch with someone so they can help you.......

Glad you cannot count........drama. drama, drama.

Gee let me think Melbourne has a deal with the MCG. Where are the Afl going to fixture Melbourne home games ,we don't have a deal with Etihad Stadium for Home Games, so the AFL cannot force it. So what if Carlton want to play at the G it's the AFL problem with the fixture not ours. What people seem to forget when the club starts to play consistent and finals football long term then these sort of panicking posts go away. But I am curious where do propose the Afl would make us play our games.......

What a load of crap!!!

I believe that a lot of supporters overrate our list and football department and it shows. Some believe that we should make the eight and some think we should win eight to ten games for Neeld and co to keep their jobs. So lets have a look at where we were, a club that was in basic term broke an underfunded football club, poor culture over many years, no structures within the club of what is needed to be a successful club, a board that leaked like a sieve and if reports are true the players had a lot to say to what went on. So Neeld is appointed and he fully changes the way the football department is set up, not only is there assistant coaches we now have line coaches to help with the players development, we also got in Dave Misson and he is one of the best in the business and then Neil Craig who also knows how a successful football department runs. So Misson’s first pre-season and the man is staggered at the fitness of the players with all his data from the swans and the saints he rated us at about sixty percent compared to those two teams, then again he was still flogging them during the season. Then we come to this year and I believe he has ramped it up another twenty percent so that leaves us another twenty percent left for next year, you cannot get to an elite level like all the top sides in a short time, Misson is building the body to match the fitness base then we will be able to compete with the top sides. So now we come to Neeld’s second season and he has cleaned out the playing list and brought in some expiernced players as well as some youth and yet people still complained and only wanted youth, I believe they do not understand what Neeld’s so called money ball is all about, first and foremost bring in expiernced players bides him time to develop the younger players by taking the pressure of them so instead of getting the best player on them (instead of two players on Clarke they now have to look after Dawes, Pederson, Byrnes or even Howe) they might get the second and third player so that in effect helps them with confidence and that will help fast track their development. Neeld knows that he has only a couple of years at most with Rodan, Byrnes etc so this is where top clubs have it over us, when they have a player out with injuries someone from the second tier stands up and that is where we need to get. So lets remember before we put time limits on Neeld and co just remember get the foundation right before the building can be built, what I hope to see (wins would be nice) but the group continue to bridge the gap between us and the top sides so we can have continued success. P.S If you don’t think Neeld, Misson and Craig don’t know what is needed to get to the top then your dreaming!!

Thanks for stating the bloody obvious other wise I would not have known.

WYL I suppose its best described like this, have you ever worked for a company that lacks leadership from the top, the workers get lazy and the care factor will always be low, mistakes get passed over, excuses become the norm, then a new leadership comes in with a different direction, but the workers still think that the old way is best, there will always be hesitance from the workers not believing that what the leadership team are doing will lead to better work ethics, higher output etc. When they realise that the new team care about what they are doing how there going about it and then giving them the tools to improve themselves that is when the company takes itself to another level and gives itself a real chance to compete with the big boys. This is now happening Neeld and co are doing this but again don't reach for the stars only for them to burn out, l want to see as many wins as every supporter does, but remember every other club is trying to do the same, but we came from a long way back, but by hell Neeld and co won't die wondering. GO DEES!!!!

I understand where you come from and your right Neeld does not want to live in the past but set it up for a long reign at the top 4 year after year, but lets realise we have gone from crawling to walking and the next step is running, but he will get there.

I have been reading these posts with great interest, and to WYL with due respect you seem to have have huge expectations and some lack of understanding where this club and side has come from, so I go back to when Misson first started and the fitness was way behind the data that he had, he has also stated (correct me if i'm wrong that this year has been ramped up around another 30%) so we are still behind the two sides that he has been in control of. Neeld and co have now set the club up after his first year the way a football club is supposed to be (i.e. the pies, geelong etc) and it will take a little more time before they become a constant football club but the building blocks are there, remember how long the cats took and the pies to reach it. The game plan will will incorporate run and carry tight defence and hard running but until the elite fitness kicks in core strengths become stronger and strong work ethics become the norm we will still have moments of going uhhhhhhhh but they will become less and less. We are on the right track and for the first time in a long time and you can smell it so be patient grasshopper.

Absolutely a brilliant home page, well done!!!!

He seems to have slimed down in the leg area or is that just me?

Wish you would take the same advise.

Whoops should have realised that analogy might have gone over one's head RR but do you really need it to be explained? god I hope not.

Well RR, JC panics at the drop of the hat, as for you only so much red one can drink before people say!!!!

I see some things have not changed, would hate to be in a bar fight with some of our supporters they would be under the table before you could count to one!!

In your opinion they have, but I don't think they have, we will all have to wait and see won't we