Grapeviney

Yep, he'd be kicking himself. A couple of early wickets and this could be interesting.

Good to see Maxy Klinger getting among the runs in the BBL, just knocked 105 n.o off 60 balls against the Renegades. I used to play school cricket with Klinger. I was in year 12, and he in grade 6, but he had special permission to miss class and play with the senior team on a Wednesday afternoon in the inter-school competition. The rules stipulated that you had to retire at 50 - Klinger went through the entire comp without losing his wicket, even though he was barely taller than the stumps at that stage. It would take him about 20 minutes to reach his 50 and then he'd go back to class. No surprise that we were premiers that year!

Sorry to be an MFCSS grinch but if Port had kicked accurately it would have been a lot closer. Just sayin

It must be really hard for his family at this time of year.

Like this?

"The ball is in the triangle quadrant of the ground." Brian Taylor

Can't they just 'test' his height now with a tape measure ?

7 actually TD, which is a pretty good haul regardless. Does anyone else think Steve Smith looks a lot like Nick Riewoldt?

Thought some more about this issue and the better comparison is with the IRA, whose actions were very much called terrorism. No, it wasn't "Christian Terrorism" but no-one tried to pretend it wasn't religious or political violence. Mind you, the problems in northern Ireland were more akin to the Sunni v Shi'ite inter-religion struggle than the Islam vs the world equation of modern jihadis.

Thanks for the response HT I agree with the inherent hypocrisy here. America could never in a million years admit crimes being committed in the name of Christianity, and Australia's probably not much different. If there were a spate of killings or crimes in the name of Buddhism, would we call it Buddhist terrorism? I doubt it. We'll have to agree to disagree on this point. For mine, it's irrelevant whether he (or a they) are formally affiliated with a larger militant group or not. What's the difference between going to weekly meetings with a group or watching some imam on the internet on your own if the actions you take are the same? I doubt very much whether Israelis, for example, would think that Palestinian suicide bombers are not driven by religion or politics. The whole thing about affiliation is sketchy at best - it's not like these groups have AGMs or membership. Anyone can affiliate with al-qaeda, or ISIL, that doesn't mean central command is involved or has any knowledge whatsoever of acts committed in their name. Agree with all the above, but the fact that he used an Islamic flag (and sought an ISIL/ISIS) flag does mean that the crime cannot be divorced from religion, as many are trying to do, no matter how much responsibility should be sheeted home to his mental instability. There's a well-worn news adage that one dead Australian equals two dead Americans / British equals 10 dead from xx equals 50 dead from Pakistan and so on and on. The formula differs depending on where you are but the sentiment is the same, putting a relative value on human life as you say. To be fair, The Age did run it pretty big that morning - they had a wrap-around special on the siege but the big main story on the inside front page was the schoolchildren. Given the events of today in Cairns, it's been a terrible week.

Calwell was also part of the picture which created the notorious "faceless men" phenomenon that has plagued the Labor Party for half a century. Calwell and Whitlam - despite being leader and deputy leader respectively - were left out of an important ALP conference meeting on a proposed naval base in WA, and photographers snapped them waiting outside a Canberra hotel in the middle of the night while conference delegates inside - the faceless men - decided ALP policy. Back on topic, Calwell and Whitlam shouldn't be on the Demonland banner.

I'm a bit ambivalent about this whole debate over whether it was "terrorism". Isn't a suicide bomber who blows himself up in a Jerusalem street or an Iraqi bus also a "nut job"? And is there really any difference between someone who does this with the knowledge of others (organised) and a lone wolf, if they are both doing it in the name of the same cause? Would your perspective be different if he had an accomplice? Or if there had been five gunmen?

It was a bit of a confusing day for Newscorp. On the news.com.au website they carried a huge picture of Sydney harbour with the words: "Terrorists - You will never change us, from Australia." The special edition of the Tele had the headline: "The moment we changed forever."

Best seats in the house. You're pretty much sitting a few rows in front of Roos.

I knew you were a fake when you didn't talk to Salem about Arsenal..

My sources telling me he's already signed with Hawthorn and will line up for them round 1 2015

As Titus O'Reilly tweeted: Clarke's century will go down as one of the most iconic since Warner's yesterday.

He was a great backman, not just a good one. Ask Carey: he rated Neita alongside Glen Jakovich as his most difficult opponent.

The irony being that Andrews had exactly the same problem with the ambos, their union, and a protracted pay dispute when he was Health Minister in the previous Labor Government. If I'd been the Libs, I would have painted the current mess as a continuation of the problems which began under Andrews.

The last thing in the world I'd do is pour more money into what must be the worst-located business premises in the state, if not the country.

What did you expect? You're probably the only person in the country who wants to wind the clock back 30 years by re-regulating the dollar and re-introducing tariffs. Those days are over DL

ummmm right well i guess there's a chance he'll appeal and they give him extra weeks

Dawes is suspended.

I wish we were playing tomorrow.