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I haven't read the article you are referring to, but you don't seem to be suggesting Caro has made unsubstantiated claims, just that Goody should have stayed for the final 3 game and been at the BNF To be fair, Caro is an opinion writer and seemingly in her opinion Goody should have stayed for the final 3 games, been at the BNF and that the club haven't handled the situation respectfully (or is she reporting that Goody thinks otherwise?) No law that says anyone has to agree with her opinion.

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So edgelordy.

There was no award for best Casey player. It was weird that only hours after sending out emails and text announcing the other players had been given the chop that out of the blue they announced Billings was not playing next year (they didn't say delisted, for any of them). Perhaps they simply forgot to add him to the email and text? Though i wonder if he as flagged he wants to leave perhaps with view to getting picked up by the Roos or Eagles?

I'm pretty sure riv finished equal 10th with Viney. At least I think that was the graphic on the screen at the end of the event. Bu agree, it's interesting riv got so fee votes. And I thought it interesting clarry didn't finish higher I dont think he deserved to nessesarily, just that he played every game and was often in our top 5 rated players - and on the surface he had a better season than chin. I say on the surface as the difference in best and fairest awards to say the brownlow or player ratings is, like the coaches votes, they factor in things hard to assess externally like leadership and adherence to role and instructions. Which I think helps explain chin and langdon, who rated super poorly this year, getting so many votes. Even though he missed 4 games i was surprised tmac didn't finish top 10.

Mine too.

I don't know about that. They might want to bring in their own high-performance manager but i suspect at most clubs that person's salary is only behind the CEO and senior coach on the pay scale. So, let's say Bucks gets the gig and want to bring in his choice of high-performance manager. That person needs to be available - and the best are no doubt locked up. And assuming they can break their current contract, we need to be able to meet their salary demands.

That's a good point about the visuals - a big fuzzer MFC sign on the admin and indoor training building will be seen by 100s of thousands of commuters a year.

A good stat to use to compare a player's performance level year to year is Champion Data's player rating. Nibbla's career average is 9.53 rating points (for context 20 points is considered to be an elite AA level rating) Nibblas best rated season was his last with us - 2024 - with 11.38 points (and from memory third in the bluey). Next best was 2018 with 10.65, just ahead of this season's average of 10.20 and our premiership year (10.16). Coaches' votes are also an interesting measure to use i think as they give some sense of how influential the two coaches think a player has been in terms of influencing the outcome of games (generally the winning team has more players getting votes). The Coaches votes tell an interesting tale. In 2018, Nibbla's second highest rated season, he only got two coaches votes (3 in 2023 and 1 in 2021). Last season Nibbla got 15 coaches' votes. This season Nibbla got an impressive 26 coaches' votes. AFL Player Profile - Alex Neal-Bullen

Thanks FAT. Was actually just winding Red up - hence the emoji. The very close proximity to Caulfield station is huge i reckon. Even though the other side is not very far away from the station it's far enough for some who might be umming and ahhing about popping into training (or going to the dees store to buy some merch etc), perhaps on the way to or from work or school, to decide not to bother. Being able to get off the train (perhaps to change lines) and be in Dees HQ in 90 seconds means more people will visit on a whim. I'm on the Altona train line and the city bound trains are stopping all stations to Frankston meaning door to door i will be able to get to our training base by PT in an hour - quicker than would be the case if i was driving. Combined with a punt at one of the best pub tabs in Victoria (right on the track), or even a mid-week meet at Caulfield, and i am in sports heaven.

Sorry, red can you clarify - will the school's footy teams use our ovals to train and play on?

Yep, I'm certainly not writing him off. And I largely agree on your summary of his strengths. I'd add that if he can really get to work in the gym he has the sort of build to be a real power player. But he's the sort of player that if not a star doesn't make it at AFL level That's to say with his weaknesses (doesn't appear super athletic, doesn't get big disposal numbers, isn't super quick or an aerobic beast) he really needs to be an impact player with tricks and x factor to be best 22 at AFL level. He needs to kick the occasional bag, go on a 10 minute tear and dominate, turn a game around, kick a team lifter - a difference maker. Which is what I had hoped see in the final against Frankston. A good comparison to the sort of player I'm thinking of is Cam Raynor. Key Key will be him getting super fit - I get he had an interrupted preseason but he has just finished his second full season and he looks a ways off optimal shape. This preseason and early next season will tell a tale of where he is really at. Not buying any more shares, I'll just hold the ones i have for now (that said with my JVR, Spargo and Kolt shares my portfolio is a bot unbalanced - good thing I bought Max at the bottom, and loaded up on Langford and XL

I thought we had one in Jefferson?

Even with his lack of impact at AFL level, i have been really bullish on kolt. But whilst he got a bit of the ball last night I was really disappointed with both his game and attitude. With his build, size, relative lack of athletisism and low disposal numbers Kolt will need to have an x factor to thrive at AFL level. Elimination final at VFL level, the end of his second full season on an AFL list against a team with no AFL listed players. It was the perfect game for him to be the x factor, for him to impose himself on the game and make a winning impact Funnily enough I had that thought then 45 seconds later he missed that sitter after a beautiful bit of transition. Yes he kicked a good goal later, and yes he was involved. But he doesn't work hard enough, looks completely static and flat footed at stoppages and wastes energy with the faux tough guy stuff (which only works if like say a Toby Greene you backlit up with stellar performances). Culley and laurie had more x factor than kolt.

In large part because of the pies relentless pressure on the kicker.

What that match showed was how different finals footy is and how much more challenging implementing a transition method can be when the pressure and intensity is dialled up to 11. And it reinforced that pressure is still the most important factor in footy It fey from the get go that the pies were hell bent on ensuring the crows could get any overlap link up and were smashing them from pillar to post. Funnily enough, the pies looked like the dees in 2023 and 2023.

All good points, well made. As part of efforts to change the vibe, they also changed up training days. And, after being almost injury free before Xmas (with XL's PCL a notable exception, we had a horror run in January and February with injuries which put us behind the 8 ball. And atvthevend of the players have to bare some responsibility-even with all the tech and data only they know if they are truly giving 110% (and some probably think they are but in reality aren't)

There is a huge differences in the fitness levels of teams accross the AFL. I'd argue that behind injury, is the biggest determinate in success. And id also argue that the disparity in fitness levels across the competition is a key facror in the huge gap between the top 9 teams and the rest We are nor fit enough. Our unbelievably poor record in last quarters ths season, which i thinnk had got worse every year under Griffith (though I stand ti be corrected - calling @WheeloRatings), and in red time are just two bits of evidence supporting that opinion.

Totes agree. C'mon man.

Hyperbole much.

Yeah, lawyers are an honest lot.

A bit rich to criticise people for not understanding nuance, and presumably questioning their ability to engage in reasoned discourse, whilst also throwing out puerile, childish insults. Ironic on a couple of levels too. One, being so clearly triggered by Engorged Onion's well reasoned, nuanced rebuttal of your argument about Langford's age. Secondly, your choice of insult is hilariously ironic. Emotional airheads? I mean needing to default to insults is the very definition of allowing emotion to trump reason.

This x 1000. Sure, if he had his choice of clubs Buckley might not choose the dees. But he doesn't. And there is unlikely to be a better option in the near term - obviously the pies are out, the hawks and the crows are on the rise, the lions have Daly in the wings, Scott doesn't look like he is going anywhere at the cats. The blues and perhaps the dogs and freo might have a vacancy next year, but none are anymore attractive than the dees - and besides next year he might have to compete for any vacancy with Longmire, Simpson and perhaps even goody. And I just can't see Buckley wanting to coach a team in full rebuild mode, let alone one that is two full seasons from playing its first game and realistically won't win a flag for at least 7 or 8 seasons after they enter the competition (meaning, no flag until at least 2035, a decade from now).