Mad_Melbourne

Whilst I understand your comments, just under 250 games, premiership player, captain of his club, All-Australian, best and fairest winner, voted best captain one year by the AFLPA and most courageous too and a couple international rules series. Bit stiff saying Viney is already a better player, but i get your train of thought none the less

Hogans only flaw is his kicking distance, which is something that can improve with time and strength, but at the end of the day I am not worried about him taking shots from 50 as he is incredibly reliable from inside 40m. He has a presence and that is something rare from a 20 year old, I loved seeing him crash the pack in the last quarter and as he was jogging down the field keep looking back to make sure the St Kilda player was slow to get up.

You are one of those sink the boot in due to a game that wasn't great kinda people. Viney, lacks pace and disposal is questionable at times. Cross lacks pace and disposal is questionable at times. On the weekend Dunn kicked the poorest he has all year Jeremy Howe made 5-6 defensive and offensive blunders. Tom McDonald whilst he can make errors on disposal and judgement, defensively is a key player to our team. You just don't get rid of your starting centre half back who can sometimes make mistakes when he doesn't get goals kicked on him. The problem is that players don't get near him for him to hand pass to, due to his elite running and ability to find space

Tell me a game where his opponent had best him heavily this year. In 10 games he has probably only been really beaten once and that was against WC. I don't know what you have been watching all year if you dont agree? What point in the post that you questioned did you disagree with? I nearly can not think of a 21 year old defender who is better, Talia and May is probably it, frost is much less proven

Tom McDonald is going to be playing for Melbourne for 10-13 more years, barring injury or free agency. Whilst his disposal is not as good as others, his defensive output is often top notch and whilst Petrie had the chance to kick 4-5 goals, he didnt and yet again McDonald only had one goal kicked on him. He runs hard off his opponent which works if we are able to maintain the footy, but when we turned it over so easily Petrie did not bother chasing McDonald and gave him several easy marks. His disposal problem is a bit of an issue, but it is also to do with the options that are presented to him, he isnt going to be a 50 m pin point passer, but if he can run the footy for 20 m and get the ball to a one v one 50 odd metres away or over the boundary line then this is an ideal passage of play. That being said, he has been one of the best this year week in week out and will be top 10 in our BNF

i think the main difference is that we took Kennedy-Harris, if he wasnt available i think we would find templeton on our list. our biggest issue was midfielders and that is why Harmes was chosen, the combination of ready made player (jetta), defender (georgiou), developing key forward (king) and midfielder (harmes) is a good way to go about a rookie list in my opinion. Hunt was the very questionable pick up, heard he was overshadowed by josh kelly and christian salem in school footy, but he always showed great pace, may well develop into a damaging player if he is able to break the lines and use his disposal effectively.

Hendricks with a big knockout! Gsp was just a little bit too good for condit. Surely gsp vs Hendricks next?

Yeh quite possibly, Carwin is injury prone though! I like the tuf set up, I think it builds a fight really well, so it's annoying that the build up is ruined! That's cool, I'm going to hunt that interview down now, I'm excited for condit v gsp now it's closer That is awesome, just ask for a round of sparring haha

Carwin pulled out of tuf 16 coaches fight due to a knee injury, who will Dana put up against old country?

That's sick so you actually get to meet him? Ask him why he got that tattoo on the back of his noggin haha I've never been to a live event that would be really cool! I'm going to try get a few mates keen to go now! Smashes tonight was poor as usual, although best fight of the season haha!

I am really hyped, I can't wait for it, I hope it's 5 rounds of standing and trading, would be fun, but I think it will be a quick fight, I think condit will get a good early shot in on gsp, I don't know though, but I'm on the condit bandwagon. Oh he is definitely one of the stupidest people I have seen, but he is a very very smart fighter! I very much like his logic of winning the fight rather than going out and putting on a show but not winning! Although it has made it quite boring, and the judging during the fights has been horrendous! Who's your tip for their final, Nelson or carwin? Manny absolute warrior, felt really bad for the bloke, considering the effort he put in! George is not a bad coach, but I don't fancy him against Ross Pearson. I often wonder why in lots of fights they do stop the leg kicks, when they could almost push for a stoppage on it!

"I just want to bannnnng" cue tears, absolutely hilarious. What are your thoughts on Roy Nelson as coach, I think he has made some really solid fighters but not outstanding into winners, but he seems disinterested, so I'm in two minds on him. And very underwhelmed by the fighters on the smashes, not much talent compared to other seasons of the show! Yes good ko, but really bit sad for franklin to go down like that, basically looks like his career will be done! Thiago silva is an intimidating dude, has a bit of Nathan Carroll about him haha. Yes, hopefully Tom lawlor can provide some entertainment as well! It's just hard to see how condit would lose, but then again it's GSP so anything can happen.

Julian lane on this weeks episode of tuf loses his marbles, it's hilarious. And Chaney bit Manley while he was being choked out. Anyone have much interest in gsp and condit? I can't see condit losing, just gone from strength to strength, a real tacticians fight!

Sorry I was still talking about josh toy! Having said that I wouldn't be parting with a pick inside 20 for josh caddy.

I agree, but there will be other clubs still looking at Morton! And caddy said he was happy to stay at the club, the fact of the matter is, he is still a 20 year old, and has plenty of footy left in him, he is a good kick, and could be an outside player that we are looking for, the fact you said he is a weak person due to being homesick and that is a reflection on his footy was the biggest point that made you look like a tool. Each to their own, but I could see him slotting into our backline, and I think pick 30-50 would be a steal and I think misson and neeld could definitely help his development as a player.

You do realise that you are using his 2012 average where he played 5 games, 4 of them as a sub, and averaged less than 50 % game time for the year after he played 93% game time in one game against st kilda. Secondly he was rated around top 10 in his year, so offering up pick 30-50 would be a steal for it in a draft where the depth is pretty average. Thirdly he didn't get as good run this season as he told goldcoast earlier in the year that he was looking at moving back to Melbourne and he did not sign the contract offer from the goldcoast. I don't see how wanting to come home is the sign of a poor football player? And I don't get how you don't see value in a pick 30-50 instead of a player ranked 30th - 50th. How is it a waste of a pick?

I made no comment about his ability, but rather how stupid your post was about homesickness being similar to playing an away match. Secondly his dad passed away late in 2008. Thirdly I never said anything about giving up players or draft picks If we give up a draft pick it would be pick 30-50, 3rd round pick similar to Cheney! And personally I think it would be a steal, he just needs a proper go, and he could well add the disposal and outside possession we need off our half back line.

Your an idiot, homesickness is not based around one week of interstate travel but rather living away from family for 2 years, he only gets to see them every so often! A weekend away playing doesn't make him homesick. It's pretty hard to deal with your dads death while away from family basically 24/7

This is good, watts and Morton outside if there is a pack is idal as they cn dispose of the ball well usually ith good decision making skills. When it is their turn to get the hardball then the need to go, which I think they are becoming better at, but if you have all your midfielders in at the pack that's how you lose the disposal count by 250. Uncontested possession is important aswell