old dee

It's all about the look and passing the pub test. They have to be seen to be in charge. Would not be a good look for a Labor government to be seen following a conservative silver tails club. They need to be leading us down the path.

Spot on LH. While we remained welded to the G area it is going to be very difficult. It will be interesting what is said about the project the coming members up date. I just want a facility where it is I truely don't care.

Correct that successive boards over 50 years have bought us to this point. However it is no use complaining about the past it cannot be changed. Unlike most I would be happy for us to establish a good training facility anywhere. I am not welded to the G. However it seems the MFC board are so we wait for the very difficult to be achieved.

Looks like we are moving to Casey this year. Could be the start of the future.

While I agree with most of that Binman I cannot see us making a GF at any time with the current coach. I have Zero confidence in his ability on match day. Very happy to be wrong but we are constantly out manoeuvred during games.

Play finals but not by falling in during the last round of the season. Finishing eighth by the skin of our teeth is not good enough. That result shows you don’t have the skill to get a list that should have played finals easily in 2020 improved.

I believe we have a list that should make 7-8 th in 2021. Time will tell if it is better than that. Ok for Max who is the captain push the issue. As captain if you cannot be positive for 2021 now when can you?

Is it possible to get past MFCSS ? Other than that I agree AB.

Dr unlike every other club we want a lot more than money. We need public park space. I MO that is the big problem. It needs state government and Melb city council and God knows how many government departments on side. It is again IMO a big ask. Especially as we are viewed as conservative silver tails.

I would but they wont. We can very confident on that Dr.D

I have for a lot of years considered a membership as a charitable donation LDC, as you say getting in 0n a match day is a bonus. However we are in the minority. A large group of members would not buy a membership if it gets to hard for them to go to games. Why would anyone make plans early to go to a game under the system for 2021 and you would definately not book an interstate trip. While i have been a member since 1972 ( with four lost years ) I am rapidly reaching the age that if it is too hard I wont go, then comes the question why am i bothering with a member ship? I enjoy going and watching a game live if going to watch the MFC gets too hard I would prefer to watch the seconds ( that too gets increasingly difficult in 2021 ) or the Amos. In 2019 I went to as many Casey games as the senior games. While I am a MFC nut case I really dont care about the rest of the AFL. If there was no MFC I would have no interest in Aussie rules at the senior level it just aint that good to watch anymore.

Not as bad but a similar problem I think exists with the latest plan for the Goschs area. The big problem as I see it is loss of public open space. Clubs like Footscray and Geelong with grounds that already exist are no brainers for any government. But because we are wedded to the G area we add 2-3 extra layers of problems to get the plan through. Can you imagine the Melbourne council worrying about the MFC and loss of park space in the current environment. It would be close to last on a list of 1000 things to get fired up after the end of the lock down etc. Sadly I think we have quite some time to wait. Then the building has to start. 2023 looks about right to me.

If this happens it is be because we are wedded to G precinict.

I have little care for NRL DC. They have always had low attendance numbers unlike AFL.

Not sure the problem is huge LDC just because you and I have lost it recently doesn’t mean everyone has, more likely our warped view of the world. Jokes aside mental health is a big problem but I doubt we will get our wishes as part of some mental health operation.

Perhaps it is Zero ! The big hold up has to be the use of public open space. If we were looking at any other location not weld to the G then construction would have started by now in fact probably finished and in use.

No just incompetent !

I am not Bda. This year I did not get to go to a single game. I watched the Dees matches on FTA and little else. and I did not ask for my membership back. However this year I thought about it before renewing. If they continue to treat people who attend matches with contempt then the Dees better have a good 2021 or by this time next year I could easily slip to attending Amos matches live and AFL will be an occasional tv watch . The sad part is the AFL probably don’t care what I do, I am expendable

Thanks for that Gil. Seriously there is a difference between giving up some things and being their slave. If they continue to ignore fans who prefer going to games the base will quickly erode. Why buy a membership if it gets harder and harder to go to games.

Because they are completly control by the broadcasters. I think that Gil is now Broadcast media CEO. It is getting to the stage that going to a game is not important to the AFL. Why bother with a membership just sign up to Kayo and get all the other sports as a bonus. I am sure he would be happy with that. Oh and get a hair cut Gil you look ridiculous !

Could not have said it so well.

With every passing day the second tier competition looks more ridiculous.

Spot on dc.

It is just to hard to work out. I am taking the “ let me know the result when the merry go round stops” and I will look at 2021 from there. It seems like the draw for next year will be a moving fiasco. It seems like the broadcast media now run the competition. Who actually employs Gill? And by the way Gill get a haircut and shave. On days like today it reminds me why my interest in AFL is sliding.

We need to get public park land. No show in the short term.