old dee

So what has changed LH? From the above it would appear the FD.

A bloke called Hogan left, he kicked nearly 50 goals in about 16 games. The forward line has never been the same since. Without his goals some of the young guys of 2018 have been shown up, they where riding on his 50 goals coat tails. Tmac got injured and has never been the same since, we simply don’t have that good of a list.

I think your first item is the key one, our list is not as flash as a lot assume. E.g. we have one KFP player who is good but will Never be a champion.

Or did they just have a year out in 2018?

So what is your solution?

Sadly I have to agree with you joeboy, spot on.

And selection in the first place Bbo

Agree a number never were but were carried along by the top ten, now 3- 4 of that 10 have dropped off or left and they now look like they always were, not good enough.

Interested to hear it Mr Leg.

I don’t fault his desire and effort fd but that is not enough.

On my estimate of Port it appears we have 5 players who are As good as the corresponding players at Port. After that we drop away substantially. Surely after 14 games this year Dees supporters can see we are only a mid level Talented team. Poor delivery equals poor results which must be the only thing we do consistently well.

Sorry but like a lot outside the best 22 he is one of the many NQR group. There is a reason he spent so long in the vfl, like Hannah they are not good enough.

How can everyone be this correct.

It’s playing like one.

I guess we are not going to agree on this one Dr. Just don't think we are skilled enough. You cannot win games against the better side with poor kicking skills.

Beat me by 2 hours Biffen.

What we are seeing IMO is more a case of a lack quality that appears as poor play in a lot of games. Endeavour and effort can carry You a fair way you but When you run into better skill And or you get tired we fail. We do not have a player list to get us higher than the mid level of the ladder. How many very Good and Good players do we actually have ? I cannot see more than 10 then we drop away rapidly. Add a FD that is gloriously average and the result is an average team who if things go our way means we can sneak into the finals but little else will happen. We still have a long way to go.

Cannot give you an example of Dees ones because I seldom go on any Mr Shadow I just give them all a wide berth based on what I saw a couple of years ago. Unlike Demonland there is little if any control of the sites and while I am not a fan of censorship I am also not in favour of bullying etc either. If people had to use their real names etc half the sites would disappear over night. I might add there would be a few on here that would disappear as well.

I must admit I seldom go on facebook sports sites they are as you suggest.

Yes about 12 of them should become permanent residents

It is a 2 hour flight to Melbourne on Sunday 20th September.

Why any more than here layzie? All social media sites are the same some just a little better than others. It is like worrying about your privacy, it was lost a decade or two ago.

I don't disagree with you sue but nothing you or I do will change it, if you are a high level sports person in any sport simply don't have public social media and don't read it. Now I know that we see on a daily basis that being good at a sport does not make you a rocket scientist. The only suggestion I have is don't go in the kitchen.

It's the world we live in this 21st century. The old saying fits if you cannot take the heat don't go in the kitchen.

Sadly I have to agree with you RN. The most mystifying thing for me is why we all keep coming back for more every year.