Bitter but optimistic

It's has certainly been proven that that doesn't exist dieter. So a "difficult" issue will be simply swept under the carpet in the hope that it dies down quickly.

I can't believe there is no thread on this so Uncle Bitter will tackle the hard issues. We, the mighty Dees were done over, a few years ago for bringing the game into disrepute. This week one of our players was done over for a sling tackle. The AFL rabbits on about player safety, equality, fairness, sexual harassment , racial vilification etc. Now we have a big brand name - Richmond, splashed around in the media, for what could be described ( at best) as gross year 8 schoolyard behaviour . Is this the look the AFL wants? I'm guessing not! What penalties will be imposed on those who have breached the very behaviours the AFL has committed to stamp out? Over to you Gil.

Given the way Max looked in the game against Adelaide, surely you would have him there for insurance!!!

Or .... to put it another way picket - " I'm half the man I never was "

At the moment TMac can barely run at all. His form is poor but I suspect there an underlying medical/injury issue. It's more than form when you turn from an elite athlete to a plodding draughthorse.

It is very difficult to even speculate on selection because not only are we unsure who is actually injured but we have no Casey form nor even training reports to go on to consider replacements. However, if those are indeed the outs big red, then I reckon your suggested replacements are reasonable. Of course Pruess has no match fitness but I would prefer him to the totally out of form Tmac or putting extra pressure on Weed or Jackson. I hope that is all the changes. As you say there maybe doubt over Vanders but I hope not. I wouldn't be resting Bennell unless there were good medical reasons - he needs to play himself into form.

@picket fence please

If he’s playing good consistent footy, the filth will have a crack when the opportunity arises. You can back that in. Every time Eddie mentions him he starts creaming over the Collingwood “heritage” !

Jesus the commentary is embarrassing- Overdone jokes about the game just starting spare me

Simply disgraceful result!!!

This is the point. No one wants players seriously hurt but .., it’s now becoming so complicated rule wise that any form of tackling is in danger of being ruled out How do we want the game to proceed?

ANB has just been transferred to “ inconsistency world”. Let’s see what happens

Absolutely SWYL ! I posted elsewhere that is was some of the worst umpiring I’ve ever seen Umpiring seems to have been getting poorer every year. I don’t know why this is. It’s puzzling to say the least We have a complex set of Rules yet we want the game to flow. Those two things are at odds. If you pay every free kick it [censored] up the game but if you start picking and choosing then unfairness and inconsistency comes in As you know it can be bloody frustrating to watch !!!

Post 17 above gives a good assessment Dub lets play him more so we can see his class

Apart from that nonchalant and classy goal Benell just couldn't get into the game. I reckon we have to take the risk and play him regularly to let him work into form

No casks at The Manor Red (unless they're made of oak)

Oliver May Viney Max Jackson Petracca

A strong finish made it a convincing win. Some of the worst umpiring I have ever seen. A real coming of age game from Jackson and a gutsy effort from a clearly unfit Max. Let's take the 4 points and see where can go from here. PS the fox commentary was equally as bad as the umpiring PPS Clayton Oliver FMD !!!!

Yeah a decent Coonawarra.

At least watching fox gives me the opportunity to laugh at billy brownless and his punting adds. what a [censored] head !!!

We are poor but ...... fmd ...... some of the worst umpiring I’ve seen !

No way Max is fit !!!!

Who is Eddy barracking for ???? FMD !!!

Ignore above. [censored] Can someone buy Hawkins a pair of sunglasses or contacts or..., something I find the [censored] disturbing