Dr. Gonzo

You're still misinterpreting what was said.

You're arguing against something @MrFreeze didn't say. He never said he had an issue with Langdon's comments or whether he should be honest or not. He said it speaks to the comfort level of the playing group under Goodwin and the need for some "disruption" to kick them into gear (not "distraction").

I have been watching and specifically keeping an eye on that the last month. Still way too much bombing down the line and playing the wings.

I'd trade him for a 3rd and hope the other club takes his full salary. I see him as akin to Beams, peak Beams was up there with the best in the comp too but once it was gone, it was gone. It's also about more than his performance, it's his impact on the culture and the playing group. Edit @Howard_Grimes summed it up perfectly

Fair enough, it just looks huge on his head like he's wearing a traffic cone

Results speak louder than words. Loving your coach is not mutually exclusive with needing a fresh voice. Also who can take him seriously in that beanie 😂

We'll have to agree to disagree on the first point. I didn't see much different game style wise and the same issues that have been there for years persisted. Agree on your second point, Richo was foisted upon us by the AFL with the help of his mate Pert, can't think of any positives he's actually brought to the club and should have been out the door last year.

He is President for a specified short term until the guy we really wanted is back from holidays. He is an interim President in every sense of the word.

Hopefully his next role will be next to Goodwin on the chopping block.

Maybe and if that's the way they go you'd give them that chance but I feel like Oliver is mentally cooked. May reach his best on occasion but can't see sustained performance.

It had to happen but that doesn't mean breakups aren't hard. For me it's been a day to reflect on the success we've had under Goodwin, the 2018 finals series and 2021 will never be topped. The start of 2022 when it felt like we owned the comp and we'd never lose again was a feeling I never thought I'd experience. Tomorrow will be the time to look ahead to what's coming next.

Where is the Admin based now? MCG? If I had to relocate from MCG to Waverley I'd be looking for a new job the minute that meeting was over.

Trac didn't blow up the club, it blew up on it's own.

I see it differently, I think a new coach would be happy to see Oliver move on and not have to deal with all the cultural issues. Add to that his one dimensional play and decline in output as well as having Viney for another 3 years if I were a new coach I'd be moving on and freeing up the cap space. Petracca is different, his output has declined too but he's coming back from horrific internal injuries and is the consummate professional. Whether he is happy with the direction of the club is another matter but if I were a new coach I'd be telling him he's my next captain if he wants it (we're bereft of choice really), he's contracted and he's the one I'm looking to to lead the younger brigade coming through. I'd be happy for him to take Langford under his wing as well.

Access, favours, networking etc

We are 2-7 since round 11 with the only wins coming against the bottom 2 sides. How is the net trend upwards?

And only won finals in two of those seasons. The flag is the trump card of course but looking at the performance over the entire tenure it feels like an underachievement.

You're happy to wait another 57 years? Premierships are won each season, once the next season starts the last premiership is yesterday's news. It's always about the next flag and under Goodwin we were moving further away.

He should be gone tomorrow (probably should've gone first).

It's clear we still have leaks within the club, likely at Board level. This isn't the only example only the most recent.

Bring him in with Bartel as head of footy?

On another note, seems we still have leaks in the club. The first thing PJ stamped out was the leaking to the media and it has been creeping back in over the last couple of years. The fact that scumbag Tom Morris broke this before the club had the opportunity to tell the players is a disgrace, the Board still has issues that sacking a coach won't resolve.

First coach to be sacked after a win??

Best coach in my lifetime. Delivered a drought breaking flag. A Demons legend. But the time is right, the club needs a fresh voice. Thank you Simon and all the best

I got Gold in 2003 I think, never attended one either 😕 Been to a few Prelims tho with my wife who supports Geelong. I actually binned the AFL membership for a couple of years around the Bailey/Neeld era as wanted the money to go the club rather than AFL. When I realised how much finals tickets had increased I relented and went back to AFL after a couple of years, they let me back as a Gold paying an absentee fee for the years I'd missed. In 2022/23 I paid about $20 for finals tickets instead of the $80 or so it would've cost as a club member.