Dr. Gonzo

2 hours ago, wheaters31 said:

Viney's decision making is so costly.

I hope Windsor's hammy isn't bad.

Adams showed good signs.

Bowey forward was interesting. His precise kicking stood out.

Windsors pace was good but his disposal/decision making was shocking. Hopefully gains composure with experience.

Was great seeing Bowey forward, I've been wanting one of him, Salem or McVee across half forward for 2 years. We need some clean entries inside 50 and he offered it.

Adams was good early but got found out as the game wore on. Went to ground too often and too easily pushed out of contests.

Viney was Viney, all heart but an absolute butcher of the ball.

40 minutes ago, adonski said:

Probably just means he's no mug and won't embarrass himself knowing we already had a sights firmly set on a Buckley/Longmire type

Would also make his position untenable if he went for it and wasn't successful, perhaps he's hoping to stay on as an assistant?

2 hours ago, Sideshow Bob said:

@Neil Crompton round 2 NM game had already seal Goodies exit. The players were disinterested. Was the most pathetic onfield performance i have EVER witnessed. Any club leader would also have recognised this - im a tally astounded he wasn't walked out of the club then and there. If that time correlates with coffee with Bucks - it means our i coming Pres is 100% in tune with the needs of the club going forwards.

I thought the season was done after round 2.

I thought Goodwin was done after round 5. That loss to the Bombers in Adelaide was unforgiveable.

4 hours ago, don cordner said:

You lost me at over rated player, he was the player in the league for a long stretch

Buckley Voss and Hird were clearly the best midfielders of the late 90s/early 00s

30 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

HG, if the date of the meeting between Smith and Buckley that @Gator gave is accurate, then this took place when we were only 0-3. To me, this would imply that internal discussions on Goody would have started well before this for us to have actually reached the point where we were sounding out prospective coaches. Obviously our ‘24 years performance sowed a number of seeds of doubt.

Season was over once we lost to North by 10 goals in round 2. The next few games just sealed the deal.

12 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Or, aware Melbourne are chips in on Buckley and he doesn’t want to look silly

Yes that's another option

6 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Agree.

He stuck with the same midfield soldiers that won a flag 4 years when everyone in the comp saw that the game was changing to more transition.

Only took him this year to realise that he actually had to change the game plan to a more running and transition style

He was pretty slow to adapt.

And even after he realised he still found it difficult to part with his favourites. This year should've been about getting midfield minutes into Rivers, Windsor, Langford even McVee one the season was done but Viney, Oliver and Petracca kept dominating midfield minutes. Petracca I can cop, one of Oliver or Viney as well but not both.

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

Keeping his powder dry for when Carlton inevitably sack Voss midway through next season.

On 07/08/2025 at 07:41, RedFox said:

Does the mental fragility displayed by his playing group in not one, but four, grand finals concern you?

2016 wasn't so much mental fragility as being ribbed by the umps for the fairytale Dogs win.

On 06/08/2025 at 16:04, Superunknown said:

I’m unsure if we should get Buckley but if we do and he gets a flag with us it’ll totally be worth it to see the Filth contorted into squirming, squally rage.

Would also be worth it for some inside intel on Pies players that may see us stop being their bunnies. Next Kings Bday game would be huge.

On 06/08/2025 at 13:55, whatwhat say what said:

buckley's comments screamed 'come and get me' to me

personally, i'd like a proper process please

we ain't carlton or st. kilda

even the filth went through a proper interview set-up to land fly

We did that once before and chose Bailey over Sheedy.

6 hours ago, BangBnagBang said:

You got stats on that or just assumptions. i know the answer

Nah I'm sure they all live in Cranbourne and Berwick 🤦

1 hour ago, Winter Dan said:

Wow, what an absolute farce the AFL is !

Pure gaslighting.

So over the treatment Melb gets.

My hatred of the AFL is outweighing my love for the MFC. This league is a joke, who can stay invested in a comp so obviously corrupt?

7 hours ago, BangBnagBang said:

drive from where, not everyone lives in east Melbourne

Most footy players seem to live around the inner east, inner north, bayside suburbs or Ascot Vale area.

1 hour ago, Demons1858 said:

Player list and salary trumps everything as its linked to job security ... coaching jobs are rare ... its not an issue.

I've no idea what you're trying to say.

It clearly is an issue.

2 hours ago, Demons1858 said:

l would gladly drive to casey and back a few times a week without complaint if l go mill a year

But what if you could also get a mill a year and not have to drive to Casey and back a few times a week?

20 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

we'd still be based in three spots - mcg, waverley, casey

waverley should simply not be an interim option

Probably but the post I was replying to mentioned housing the Admin at Waverley too

1 hour ago, bing181 said:

Over the last few years, if you look at every struggling team that changed coaches, except for GCS they're all still struggling - or languishing.

Changing coaches is not the fix xmany here seem to think it is, and the "fresh voice" line trotted out by the board is so demonstrably flawed as a business strategy that I'm surprised they had the gall to use it.

The human species often confuses change for progress.

Yes we know, you would've signed Goodwin up for life because the coach is actually useless and doesn't effect anything so why not? The players loved, sorry respected, him after all and that's been working so well the last few years.

4 hours ago, Ghostwriter said:

It had been less than 24 hours since learning his coach whom he and his teammates love and respect had been sacked and you wanna read a level of complacency into his comments? Poor Ed was probably still shocked and had yet to get his head around it. You say it speaks to the level of comfort of the playing group under Goodwin. I say it speaks to the sadness and shock of the playing group immediately upon learning of the loss of Goodwin.

You're still misinterpreting what was said.

2 hours ago, Ghostwriter said:

You don’t like honesty from our players? I love Ed for telling everyone exactly how he and the other players feel about this sad and sorry mess.

Folks complain about players and coaches trotting out the same old hackneyed bs lines, then Ed speaks from his heart and you think he needs a distraction???!

You're arguing against something @MrFreeze didn't say.

He never said he had an issue with Langdon's comments or whether he should be honest or not. He said it speaks to the comfort level of the playing group under Goodwin and the need for some "disruption" to kick them into gear (not "distraction").

2 hours ago, BangBnagBang said:

there has been a clear change in game style to the eye, especially the second half of the season and the stats back that up.

If you still think we just bomb it down the line all the time I suggest you watch closer and also watch what other teams do Gonzo

I have been watching and specifically keeping an eye on that the last month. Still way too much bombing down the line and playing the wings.

1 hour ago, Jaded No More said:

And you honestly think he’s the only great player in the league that has issues?

A good coach will back themselves to get him back to his best over trading him for a second round pick. Or they’ll at least try.

Finding another peak Clarry is 10 times harder than trading him for a second rounder.

I'd trade him for a 3rd and hope the other club takes his full salary. I see him as akin to Beams, peak Beams was up there with the best in the comp too but once it was gone, it was gone.

It's also about more than his performance, it's his impact on the culture and the playing group.

Edit @Howard_Grimes summed it up perfectly

3 minutes ago, Go the Biff said:

Promoting the BCNA game

Fair enough, it just looks huge on his head like he's wearing a traffic cone

31 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Results speak louder than words. Loving your coach is not mutually exclusive with needing a fresh voice.

Also who can take him seriously in that beanie 😂

46 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

In game style, in the way we wanted to move the ball and in margins.

Yes, we were struggling to finish off those games, but we have a percentage of 108.7% and a record of 7-8 since Round 6. That is a trend upwards given the previous year.

And again, I don't know how many times I have to say it, but I wasn't against the sacking. I don't like the timing or its handling.

As for Alan Richardson allegedly being on the selection panel for the next coach, who was the person responsible for ensuring off field matters with Clarry and Trac were handled appropriately and professionally? That's not up to the senior coach. And who is responsible for the wider football department? Alan Richardson. And yet he seems to have got a pass. Mind boggling.

I'm sure some of the players won't be too keen on him. He had to be consulted on the senior coach being sacked. I haven't heard a single positive thing about Richo until he has a year remaining on his contract and he's allegedly doing a good job.

And thanks to the restructure that Pert did at the end of 2020 you had Richo being moved from Goody's mentor to his boss. Soft cap constraints aside, a toxic and confusing, conflict riddled management structure I would have thought.

We'll have to agree to disagree on the first point. I didn't see much different game style wise and the same issues that have been there for years persisted.

Agree on your second point, Richo was foisted upon us by the AFL with the help of his mate Pert, can't think of any positives he's actually brought to the club and should have been out the door last year.