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  1. 37 minutes ago, Macca said:

    The sport would survive quite easily if the umpire abuse was at a minimum.

    But the sport needs to be fixed so as to make it a lot easier to umpire.  I have outlined previously what I'd do to fix the sport so I won't go there again (for the time being)  The game is harder to umpire than it ever was thus causing even greater frustration. 

    The AFL is at fault but they won't be putting their hands up in a hurry

     In the meantime,  nothing much will change.  It would be like trying to quell booing.  I am not advocating the outlawing of umpire abuse (although I'd rather not have to witness it) I'd rather try and convince people to calm down and see the big picture. 

    And ultimately,  our club has much bigger fish to fry in order to achieve ultimate success.  We are miles off right now.

    I agree with all of that,  in principle  'M'.

     

    I am Not an umpire abuser,  and  'cringe'  when I here the white-maggot  calls. 

    I also cringe when I here,  'hard as a cats-head'  calls.    Which is surely to incite sadistic cruelty as a real behaviour.   In essence,  they are really spreading and exercising they're fear and hate.

    Creating more fear and hate, out in the community.

     

    All these things are born Out of hatred, and fear.   And a wish to impart their desires and control over things.

    Bigotry and bias are the tools.

     

    "I don't know what segregation is"

     

     

  2. 6 minutes ago, Macca said:

    I see the humour dl but the noise at the footy would still be quite high without the constant umpire abuse.  Just like any other sport where the umpire/referee abuse is at a minimum.

    And those who don't abuse umpires don't stand around like statues ... I am quite vocal at the footy yet I never blame umpires or abuse them.  And screaming out 'ball' does not constitute umpire abuse.  Or other such verbals.

    Abusing the umpires has always crossed a line in my opinion.  There is no need. 

    The umpires are not out to get us nor are they plotting our downfall.  If we're measuring the whole thing by flags won in the last 5+ decades,  the umpires are the least of our concerns.  It's best not to get sidetracked.

    Take today for instance - only a win is acceptable in my eyes.  We're 3 & 8 and we should be doubly determined to get back on the board.  And if we cop a few doubtful decisions we should be good enough to overcome that.

     ME TOO !

    But kill  'a part'  of the sum,  and risk killing the sum of the parts.

     

    Freedom is just that, simple. and easy.

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  3. 1 hour ago, Matsuo Basho said:

    Unfortunately, according to draft watchers, it’s a midfielders draft among the top 20 - 30 picks this year. 

    Anyway, there’s no such thing as a ‘ready made’ 18yo key forward.

    We must and I believe we will trade for one, or possibly look at a FA. Goodwin’s honeymoon is over. He knows he needs W’s and plenty of them in 2020 or it’s job on the line time. 

    In order I’d be going hard at:

    Ben Brown 

    Jon Patton

    Jack Darling  ???

    Charlie Dixon 

    I think we need to trade for a mobile CHF.  

    Not too tall,  but strong, aggressive and agile.   A modern version of Dermot would suffice.  A  Ross Glendinning,  or Malcolm Blight type of build,  and agility/mobility.  

     

    Jon Patton, OK for a pocket role,  but I now think we can draft for this position.

    ...............................

     

    I just read and watched the thread, Casey kid is a Kiwi. 

    I hadnn't realised  Mykelti Lefau  was tall.   I had seen vision of him last year,  but I did not realise he is  6'-4"  tall. 

    He moves well,  and is Quick, and agile...  could suit our  Key Wi needs.  ?  ???

  4. 1 hour ago, pineapple dee said:

    Perhaps the way to take away any form of abuse of anyone at an AFL match would be to make ' total silence' a condition of entry to all AFL grounds. That would stop umpire abuse in its tracks. And end any nastiness between opposition fans.

    Do it Gil !!!! For the good of the game.

    HaHa... great idea,  'p d'.

    And in the silence...  if anyone is spotted breaking the Decibel restrictions,  the nearest drone could  'Taser'  them from in front.   Shown  on-screen  as a deterrent to the masses,  to behave themselves.

     

    Failing that,  they could be escorted straight to the nearest food-stall and force fed,  and have to pay.

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  5. 13 hours ago, DaisyDeeciple said:

    Flat out wrong, indigenous Australians weren't even allowed to vote or be recognized as citizens until the 70's. Sounds a lot like Tibet or Sudan to me, his parents would have been able describe the invasion pretty well. Also massacres of indigenous communities were occurring in the 20th Century, this is not 200 years ago.

    Yet for all of this terrible history, we as a country are going in the right direction, let's not bugger it up by being dishonest about the historical record. Own it, and let's get on making it a place where everyone gets a fair go.

     

    Yes... and Catkin Cook did not discover Australia.!    Not even for the Europeans.

     

    http://www.migrationheritage.nsw.gov.au/exhibition/objectsthroughtime-history/1600s-1700s/index.html

  6. 9 hours ago, Paulo said:

    this is a disrespectful thread, calling a young man who tries his guts out for his club a potato,

    This is any area I also have an 'Issue' with...  when I cannot type in Diickk Seddon's surname,  yet others can call players names like 'Spud' or 'Potato', or others,  etc... as a derogatory term as possible.

    Iit seems to me that these words are just as demeaning as any swear word...  yet  Diickk, doesn't cut it.?

    I don't know how this obscenity filter works if demonland controls it,  but  things are crook in Tallarook,  when these issues occur.

     

    Blessed R Dee.

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  7. 5 hours ago, CBDees said:

    4” = 103mm = 10.3 cm

    Did you read in context,  CBD's.?

    If I wanted to be pedantic, i would have.   I was giving 'OD' a way to estimate easily heights. 

    If I had done as you have Z I would have made things more difficult for a good result.

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  8. 2 hours ago, monoccular said:

    OMG. Is [censored] now auto censored? The world has gone PC mad!  What about the old saying about flogging  a dead horse? Is that still ok?

    sssshh.  before they outlaw horse.

    I'm surprise Marty H is still getting his surname thru.

     

    But our old Mfc President of the 80's,  [censored] Seddon doesn't make the cut.

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  9. 1 hour ago, Matsuo Basho said:

    I’ve said nothing about myself other than indicate I am of white Anglo-Saxon heritage. That you believe all white people are “privileged” and have been dealt a “swell hand” underlines your own prejudices, not mine. Go spend  a few days observing people come and go at Centrelink to see just how wrong you are. 

    Compassion is wonderful thing, but not blind compassion. It is right and fair to remember the past and acknowledge tragedy. If some redressment is possible in the form of affirmative action policies then enact those. But to fixate upon the misery the way some people do, defining their whole personhood on events which happened two centuries ago, runs the very real risk of that individual or group developing a VICTIM MENTALITY. 

    When that type of attitude is adopted, as any psychologist will tell you, the softer side of compassion can easily devolve into something altogether unhelpful. That kind of ‘compassion’ is not really compassion at all. It’s ignorance.

    Do you believe our 1st nation people's,  must adopt and live by,  our Western ways... and values,  'MB'.?

  10. 1 hour ago, Jaded said:

    Yeah I did have a Melbourne supporter this year tell me not to boo Tom Scully and to that I say “boooooo”

    I used to hear Mfc supporters denigrate Rodney Grinter for playing too roughly...  some felt ashamed  of him.   I ask you...  Melbourne players cannot win.

     

    The sooner we play out of the Southern side,  the stronger & better the club will be.

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  11. 7 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

    Yesterday the AFL released an Apology to Adam Goodes for not standing by him. 

    For the final years of Goodes' decorated career they receded into the background and did nothing while he was being vilified by crowds at games and by 'personalities' in the media and effectively hounded out of the game. 

    The AFL has had 4 years to apologise but has not.  This week two docos are released on Goodes last years in the game.  They are docos in which the AFL and some key people in the industry, by their own actions and words are complicit in and added to the trauma Goodes endured.  I haven't seen the docos so can't comment on them.

    But I will say they AFL should be supremely embarrassed that it has taken 4 years to apologise.  Its hard to think there is much sincerity let alone contrition in the apology and its timing suggests it is to preempt the docos tarnishing of its 'reputation' and divert attention from the docos.  The AFL are controlling 'the optics' as usual!!

    Whatever one thinks of Goodes or how he played the game its hard to accept how he was neglected by the AFL and those it can influence.  I find the belated apology shallow and opportunistic.  I would have applauded the apology had it been made when Goodes retired.

    Not saying the AFL should be the moral flag bearers of our society.  But it should stand up and be counted when it comes to any of its players let alone one of its champions.  How does the saying go:  the standards we walk past are the standards we accept.   Now, the apology is, imv too little, too late.

     

    I recall feeling annoyed at Goodes's treatment,  of the booing and the bullying tones he had to endure...  for  just being a victim who dared to make a stand on a big issue... for his indigenous communities,  and really for the Goode of US all.

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  12. On 10/22/2017 at 3:07 PM, Big Carl said:

    Let us know your best MFC Team in the last 50 years.

     

    B:     A Johnson   D Hughes  G Yeats

    HB:  B Lovett  G Hardeman  S Febey

    ? S Alves  G Wells  R Flower

    HF:  G Lyon  D Schwarz  T Viney

    F:    J Farmer   D Neitz  A Jakovich

    R:  J Stynes  Gerard Healey  N Jones

    Int:  J McDonald, R Grinter, R Robertson A Yze

    Emerg:  B Wilson. E Spalding, A Obst, B Green

     

    On 10/23/2017 at 1:33 PM, corowa said:

    You've picked a great team, Big Carl. For what it's worth my team is as follows:

    B       M Whelan                     D Hughes                  S Wight

    HB     B Lovett                        G Hardeman             S Woewodin

    C       R Flower                        B Wilson                   S Tingay

     HF    G Lyon                            D Schwarz               L Jurrah

     F       J Farmer                         D Neitz                     A Jakovich

     R      J White                           J Stynes                   T Viney

    Int      G Wells              S Alves            A Johnson            N Jones 

    E         A Yze                Ger Healy         S Febey                 B Green

     

    On 10/23/2017 at 3:44 PM, Pete said:

    Giddaye all,  I'm a long time viewer 1st time poster.  For what it's worth here's my team. 

    B.         L.Fowler;      S. Wight;       D Hughes;

    H.B      S.Stretch;    G.Hardiman;  R.Grinter;

    C.        R. Flower;     G.Wells.         A. Johnson.

    H.F.    W.Dean;       D. Schwartz;   G. Healy;

    F.        J. Farmer;    D. Neitz;         P. Moore;;

    R.       S. O'dwyer    C. Oliver;        B.Wilson;

    Inter;    from  G.Lyon   J.Stynes; S.Tingay; S.Febey; M.Whelan;  A. Obst.

     

    On 10/23/2017 at 5:01 PM, tiers said:

    The very best team of the past 50 years must include the following (excluding current players whose careers have still to blossom):

    Alan Johnson, Steven Smith, Sean Wight;

    Brett Lovett, David Neitz, Gary Hardeman;

    Stan Alves, Greg Wells, Robert Flower;

    Garry Lyon, David Shwarz, Adem Yze;

    Gerard Healey, Allen Jakovich, Jeff Farmer;

    Jim Stynes, Shane Woewodin, Brian Wilson

    Int Gary Baker, Steven Tingay, Alan Obst, Glenn Lovett

    Skilled, courageous, attacking match winners.

     

     

    On 10/24/2017 at 3:30 AM, goodoil said:

    B: Alan Johnson, Sean Wight, Paul Prymke

    HB: Brett Lovett, David Neitz, Gary Hardeman

    ? Stan Alves, Greg Wells, Robbie Flower

    HF: Garry Lyon, David Schwarz, Adem Yze

    F: Jeffrey Farmer, Allen Jakovich, Gerard Healy

    FOLL: Jim Stynes, Todd, Viney, Jack Viney

    I/C: Jeff White, Stephen Tingay, Glenn Lovett, Steven Febey

    EM: Andrew Obst, Nathan Jones, Shane Woewodin.

     

    On 10/24/2017 at 4:56 PM, Stillwaiting said:

    B           Fowler   Wight   A  Johnson

    HB        Tingay     Hardeman     S  Febey   

    C            Alves      Wells     Flower

    HF          Lyon       Schwarz    T  Viney

    F             Jakovich      Neitz      Farmer

    Foll          Stynes      Jones     Gerard Healey

    Int           Yze     Wilson   B  Lovett   J   Macdonald 

    Emerg from;      J  White    Obst     Wilson    Yeates   Woewodin

                      Green     Ditterich    Davey   Hughes     etc  etc

     

    Tingay was an absolute gun before injury set in,  Wight took on bigger champion fwds and beat them consistently,  Healey just gets in but was a very good onballer,  Wilson was good but was great in one year,  AJ was just a champion,  Febes gave us dash,  and the centerline was one of the best ever albeit for too few many games.

     

     

    On 10/25/2017 at 9:49 AM, reynolds46 said:
      Wight Stephen Smith A.Johnson
      Yze Neitz B.Lovett
      Flower Wells Tingay
      Lyon Schwartz Wilson
      Farmer Jakovich Davey
      Stynes Gerard Healy T.Viney
           
    Inter  J.White Hardemann Alves
    from S.Stretch Yeats Woewodin
      R.Jackson    

     

    On 11/6/2017 at 9:02 AM, Locky McCulloch said:

    B - A.Johnson, R.Biffin, S.Wight

    H.B - S.Febey, G.Hardeman, M.Whelan

    C - R.Flower (C) , G.Wells, S.Alves

    H.F - D.Schwartz, G.Lyon (V.C), A.Yze

    F - J.Farmer, D.Neitz (D.V.C), A.Jakovich

    R - J.Stynes, T.Viney, N.Jones

    Inter. - G.Baker, S.Tingay, Gerald Healy, G. Lovett

    Emg. -  L.Fowler, R.Robertson, B.Lovett, J.McDonald, +++++++ (Near misses) - A.Davey, B.Green, T.Johnstone, A.Obst, A.Ingerson, C.Ditterich, A.Leoncelli , D.Hughes  

    Not sure how this team would gel together as far as personalities and positional aspects go .......by it would be great to find out

    Sorry, I've cheated by naming so many emergencies. I have watched and supported the D's passionately since very early 70's. My team is somewhat emotion based and I have probably favored the heart over the head with some selections. Left out 3 Brownlow medalists - Moore, Wilson and Woewodin. I really struggled with Alves or Tingay on the wing (maybe Stingers missed games through injuries cost him the spot). Of the current crop only Jones - but I think Oliver and Gawn could maybe find a spot in the future ....and possibly Petracca if he can show continued improvement and consistency AND hopefully some others?? Hogan, J.Viney, N.Jetta.....Leaver??

    *Honorable mention for D.Bennett - averaged 2.76 goals per game - and probably the best kick I've seen at the D's

     

     

    On 10/22/2017 at 3:07 PM, Big Carl said:

    Let us know your best MFC Team in the last 50 years. 

    Excuse me for making my compilationm  from eveyones posts...   I used them to remind me of all the playersm  including those I'd nearly forgotten.

     

    And no present day players,  have been pensioned-off,  to make this cut off list.

     

    B       Whelan             Neitz             Wight                                   

    HB    SFebey         Hardeman        Grinter 

    CL     AJohnson       GWells           Flower  

    HF    Farmer            Schwarz          JnrMc  

    F       RJackson           Lyon              Jakovich

     

    R       S ODwyer         TViney             BWilson

     

     Int from:   Stynes  Alves  Obst  Beveridge

    Yeates  Green  GBaker  Dyson  SStretch  Woewodin  JWhite  

     

     E  Hughes  BLovett  Fowler  Biffen  Bennett  GLovett  Carl Ditterich  Greg Healy  Tingay  Bizzel  PRohde  Sylvia  Yze  ADavey  Robertson  TJohnston  Jurrah  Pike   Gerard Healy  Frawley  Spalding  PMoore 

    .........................................

     

    .... and apologies to many players,  who didn't make that final cut.

  13. 38 minutes ago, SaberFang said:

    Wouldn't touch him with a barge pole. Off-field issues no club wants to inherit.

    Adelaide have learned the hard way. They gave up two first rounders in exchange for him + a second rounder. If they could have their time over again, they would.

    Have these 'issues' gotten a hold at Princess Park,  'SF'.?   or is it some sort of  'individual' vice.?

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