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What, do you think we'd get a better player at Pick 16 next year, compared to what we would get at Pick 10 this 2017 draft? I don't think so.

I reckon that the Power will be the next SA premier team. Sometime in the next 15 Years. I just cannot see the Crows calling anything much at all in the next little while, after their pizzy little tanties. They need a dose of instant concrete, to settle that nerve condition they have over there. I have a vision of 'the tail', wagging away all on its own.

Peanuts hey. No wonder they lost the Grand Final, they must be all monkeys. They say, you get what you pay for.

Yes, at the Blues. He can then be the chocolate atop the froth & bubbles, on they're cappuccino's.

Grab a spot in the queue.

Melksham & ANB are not what I mean by smallforward-mids. I mean the Cyril's, the Garlett types. The LeCras; more your specialist old fashioned rover/forward pocket. Dare I say Bartlett? Those players who are quick, can turn on a sixpence, & kick off a step with accuracy. But must be able to run thru the midfield rotations. I think Melksham is more half-forward wing type. Can run, but I think he'd be lost starting deep forward. ANB is another midfielder type who can be a defensive half-forwward. But I don't think he's quick. We need to pick a small with speed who would be able to use that & his evasiveness to break open a play up forward. And then be able to go into the centre square setup and win footy.

I wouldn't trade any of our young guns for anything. keep them all together. They are the nucleus of our new club. Brothers in arms. The older less committed brigade, need be shown the back door. asap.

Oliver would be worth a 1st & 2nd Rnd pick now. Petracca so far with one knee already Op'd on, would be currently worth what we gave up for him. Hogan is worth more than what we gave up for him, as he has already demonstrated his fitness from the back, & has kicked bags of goals, and is still very young. His pedigree is a proven commodity, over a few seasons now. Lever might get to that, but he is a floating tall defender. He is not worth 2 x 1st Rnd picks, at this point with his career.

Big IF's Steve. If only watts would be Vanderhaar ! It's time to put a full stop in our list, of players recruited from 2012 or prior to; who still don't cut the mustard. We need a page break from those attitudes & times, in our club. I get the feeling the club is trying to remove players of less commitment, from our tribe. So imo we don't want to bring in more like that, unless they are like a Stevie J scenario, whereby we could work with a proven consistent player. I don;'t trust motlop. And the Cats are proven to be good developers of players with issues. Motlop is a 'pass' for me. As is Tippet. If Matera was wanting out of the Suns, as long as he doesn't have a lot of baggage, I hope we talk to him before he makes a commitment. We do need some quick mid/small forwards IMO. More than just Jeffy & Dion. If they can win they're own footy & defend strongly, I think we could run 3 in a team

I think Hogan would be worth two early 1st Rnd picks, as he has shown just the other year, how dominant he can be, as he grows his body & confidence. He has the ability to dominate defenders like Rance & Lever or any you want to throw up as opponents. He has just had the season of hellish proportions, & next year if he stays will be his best in a Melbourne side cherry ripe to go into finals action. I rate Hogan as extremely valuable & will be the equivalence of Danger, Hodge, or any of the AFL's superstars in recent time. Its still early days on Lever & he's a defender. Now if he turns into a swingman, then that's different, if he can become Harry Taylor type. early days.

We can't afford small players that are slow & lack X. They have to have weapons of some description.

What about B Matera, do you have any thoughts on him?

Do we want Brandon Matera ourselves?

They possibly would, but not certainly, as they don't have any other good tall forwards that I know of. The point I'm making is your overvaluing Gibbs. And comparing Lever to Rance, who is a number of years into an elite footy career. So Rance is an established elite player. Lever is just a spring chicken in terms of playing that top level, on a consistent year on year basis. Its not about so much about Gibbs perceived trade value, as we don't want to trade with Carlton if don't have to. But my reasoning is more about this willingness to give away more than we should have to to bring a player into the club. Sometimes I think we can talk ourselves into bidding, against our own bids. We have to learn to play hard ball, if we are to learn to fight it out against the tougher clubs. They are no push over because they value they're own club interests, ahead of other clubs. We have to play with the same set of rules.

That may well be but I don't think others hold a player going on 29 before the bounce of 2018 as high as you seem to. He's probably got 3 good years, in him. Is he on your books? Take Riewoldt out of the tigers forwardline & they will falter to score. Take Rance out, and the opposition will score more, but Richmond will still be able to score well. The Tiger defenders would have to work harder & smarter. And they would probably have more pace & run. But they wouldn't be as good. I think Riewoldt's more recent seasons have him undervalued, because of his poorer early years & temperament.

Yeah Riewoldt every time. Now rance v tex walker?

Why do you value Gibbs so high? He is 28.5Yrs already, with shot legs. He's not that valuable. Early 2nd Rnd pick, if it's in 2018. I think he's in the range of 15 - 20, in 2017 draft picks.

Yep, Lever for our 2018 1st Pick, & 2017 2nd Pick. That should do it. No more.

No, an intercept Tall Defender is no way as valuable or as rare, as a Key Tall Forward. Not on the same page.

Adelaide good. The further the west he goes, the better I think. As far from us as possible.

Mcguire's short Lease on presidency. Some might say he's got buckley's chance, holding that post?

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Garland to the Pies Pendlebury to the Crows Lever to Melbourne. Dunn deal.

2020 the best of the lot. So we better wait until then, before using our ND picks.

Wattsy for Zac.