Johnny Karate

What has Tom Browne’s record been like in the past? Has he got a legitimate source or are these just his opinions dressed as fact?

I’ve posted previously that McClure on trade radio is essentially baiting and trolling for a reaction. I would be tempted to call up and suggest that we look at trading Bugg + T Smith + Tyson + Garlett to Carlton for Cripps and a second rounder for a taste of his own medicine.

Definitely understand your points as well. Time will tell. I feel like we’ll get a net gain. Taylor, Mahoney and co haven’t let us down yet.

Is he looking up an online news article from 2016?

So this is what will have to happen: Hogan requests trade (fait accompli) Freo trades Neale (likely done) for BL pick 4 (soon to be 5 because of T Lynch compo) + something else Port gets North’s first rounder (likely pick 11) this year for Polec (????) Freo negotiates one of picks 5 or 6 plus whatever else is required for both of Ports 10 & 11, or alternatively both of Adelaide’s first rounders (????) Melbourne agrees to trade Hogan for 5 or 6 + whatever else Freo is willing to offer. (????) GC17 agrees to trade May for pick 5 or 6 rather than potentially getting band 1 FA compo in 2019 (????) Simply put, Hogan likely wants out and Freo likely want him but there are plenty of variables that could scupper this deal.

Apart from Hogan I don’t see any of the players you mentioned as a huge loss. Pedersen was pretty awful in every game he played this year and I wouldn’t expect improvement in 2019 at age 31-32. T Smith can cover Pedo easily. Vince was similarly finished this year and lost his place in the team because we couldn’t carry both he and Lewis. I liked the physicality that vandenBerg brought late in the season but he can butcher it and with any form drop off he could easily be playing VFL (he’s in the bottom 6 or so players in the team). Tyson got pushed out of his natural inside role because we have players with more tricks and versatility. I like Kent but he is made of sticky tape and the fact he is so inconsistent is another reason he couldn’t find a regular spot in the 22. TL:DR - I’d like to keep Hogan but we will be compensated. Pedo and Vince were past it at AFL level. vandenBerg, Tyson and Kent will likely leave for personal reasons or opportunities we can not afford them. As nice as it would be to have a VFL team full of AFL standard players. Players won’t stay if they can get an AFL gig elsewhere. I’ll back Taylor, Mahoney and co to get us the best net outcome. I also like the fact that we’re not satisfied with finishing fourth in an even year and seem willing to turnover the list to maximise our window.

I’d say that this is about dollars, personal issues/preferences and the fact that Melbourne are not begging him to stay. Jesse has been through a lot of [censored] over the past couple of years which may have changed his outlook on life and footy in general. I think all things being equal the club would like him to stay but the MFC has now transcended begging and cajoling certain individuals to commit. In short our window just opened and we can’t afford to [censored] around.

I think more simply they are looking to create content by baiting and throwing up red herrings. They have 12 hours less ads to fill & the frigging trade period doesn’t start for a week. Their station is the equivalent of a 140+ page internet thread.

I would also be disappointed. However, our moves in the off-season of late have been very pragmatic. As another poster stated our FD tends to look at the trade period wholistically (I.e. net gain/loss) rather than ‘winning’ individual deals

Maybe it’s simply a case of him saying I’d like to be traded back to Perth if a trade can be done. If not I will look at my options again at the end of 2019.

I expect we will get May + a first round pick or a player upon losing Hogan. If we get more, great. If it’s less I’ll back the FD in and try not to let my natural nuffy disappointment get the better of me.

I don’t doubt McCarteney had issues at the Bulldogs. However I know somebody who worked for them and felt that Cooney wasn’t professional or a good influence on the group. McCartney was highly regarded at Geelong before the gig at the Dogs.

If I were to take a completely ruthless approach I'd put all of: Grimes, Howe, Toumpas and Watts on the table. I'd let Garland walk as an FA. I'd delist/retire: Bail, Cross, Jamar, M Jones, McKenzie, Michie, Riley and Terlich

Ah ok, 14-15 wins in 2015 - it seems a million miles away but it isn't impossible, plenty of teams have turned it around from where we are now.

Reality says that we currently suck on the field, I have no issue with that. But the club is in a far better position off the field than it has been for most of the past 48 years. Back in the black, a rekindled relationship with the MCC, settled non-shared training bases & a beefed up footy department spend. I'm under no illusion that much more hard work is required but we have important foundations in place that just haven't been there in the past not to mention that the draft gives us a better crack at better players rather than our pox former recruiting zone. I strongly doubt we'll win 70% of our games til 2015 but it won't mean we're in dire straights like you've stated previously.

Garbage. We will only fold if our membership base turns up their toes & caves into defeatism. It goes without saying that we need to improve on the field but the socialist equalization policies of the AFL & cyclical nature of the competition gives us the opportunity to turn it around. The above post is nothing but mindless negativity & shameful defeatism.

Thinking of the merger makes me feel physically ill. I have respect for Ian Ridley - he truly loved the club & saw no alternative. I also sympathize with members who voted 'yes' out of being conned by a campaign of dirty tricks but those who stood & fought are the true heroes of this club. The 'yes' vote is a nasty stain on our history.

Cale Morton does some silly things on the football field but a lot of our so called supporters are complete & utter dimwits. I have no problem with someone getting upset at a poor piece of play but the vitriol that comes to certain players particularly Morton is not on IMO. Last week there were two knobs in their 50's behind me getting stuck into Tom McDonald a 19 year old who's played about ten games. Morton definitely has limitations in his game but I think a lot of is to do with confidence, the guy is terrified of making a mistake so he runs up & down on the spot & chooses the 3rd option, turns it over & gets booed of the ground by the old farts in the MCC who have no clue. Rinse & repeat.