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Get a frigging grip. A few injuries to key forwards = all our key forwards out for the whole year = Frawley gone. I worry about the condition of minds that automatically infer the worst possible scenario on a slither of information.

Well done on even bothering to respond. I wouldn't have. Needless to say, one who calls Clarke a "soft whimpish sort" after Clarke was 92 not out and facing the sort of barrage he got from Morkel is showing where their comprehension skills are at.

If that were offered as the end of season ladder I'd definitely take it! MFC in the top 8 and Collingwood and Essendon in the bottom 4.

We did have the ball 94 more times than they did though. It will be a lot easier to improve on our inside 50 delivery knowing that our team is capable of actually having the ball in possession. That's why I would be inclined not to worry too much about inside 50s as I might have been last year - we're winning the ball, we're just not using it well enough yet.

We don't need to elevate him until round one, so no, he has not been elevated. His elevation is a foregone conclusion in my mind though - he's comfortably in our best back 6 so long as Garland is out, and none of the other rookies look near it yet.

The software is not very clever when it comes to timezone management. I think Andy (Demonland) knows how to get around this one...? Moving this to the 'help' forum as well.

No player will ever have a line drawn permanently through their name - or at least shouldn't. Especially not before a match has even been played for points. Matt Jones might have done some damage to his chances of being picked for round one, but beyond that he will get every opportunity to improve and regain his spot.

If Dunn continues on the trajectory he is on, he'll make the full journey from one of the worst ever MFC players to play 100 games, to respected 200 game player. When Neeld went and Roos came, I mentally reset my thoughts and expectations on all our players, and none have had a bigger swing than Dunn in my eyes. He's firmly in our starting 18 for round 1 and is looking like a player of his experience should. I couldn't be more pleased so far.

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And also; for the sorry folk like me who had to suffer the game on the SEN broadcast: my sincere commiserations. No idea who those yobbos were that were commentating, but that was genuinely the worst commentary I have ever heard. The sooner the broadcasters of this game work out that professional commentators are the go and not ex-footballers, the better.

Vince, Tyson, Cross, N. Jones our top 4 posession winners (34, 32, 29, 27 respectively). Thank heavens: 1 AFL class mid has become 4.

Bernie Vince 21 touches to half time. I remember days where we'd have nobody have 21 touches for the whole game. What an absolute bargain we got there. 17 touches to Dom Tyson as well.

For making an error?

Long winded post that just says "Jones was our best player". The entire "leads by example" idea is also just another way of saying "is our best player" - all the good players lead by example, it's an inherent part of being a good player. Leading by example isn't much good if others don't follow though and that has always been my concern re Jones, especially early.

This thread has taken a sudden turn for the funny!

I mean *you* confused people by throwing Victoria in to the discussion.

They're not trying to appeal to the generous people who pumped money in when we were stuffed, they're appealing to all the folk on the club's facebook page who went "pfft, try winning a game first! I'm not giving you rabble a cent of my hard earned until you win a game!"Bottom line is that it's a tin rattle, and isn't any more or less offensive than any of the past tin rattles; they're just taking a different angle to get more people to cough up.

Heaps of people would love this kind of scheme, ET. It makes people feel as if they're directly incentivising the club to win, and means the amount they pay is directly proportional to how the club goes. It wouldn't surprise me at all if some members asked for this.If you don't like it, don't pay. Really can't understand why you would take it so personally though.

And Jack's point is that WA is the relevant jurisdiction as that is where the crime took place. Victoria has no relevance at all in this case, that's why your having mentioned it may have confused some.

Indeed. Did anyone notice that India just lost a Test series to New Zealand? Other than McCullum's 300, I haven't paid any attention to it. Not sure what to make of it at face value.

Haha, that second innings is the strangest looking scorecard I've ever seen. Someone obviously forgot to send Maxwell the memo, and why did half the tail bat in the top order?

I wouldn't blame him - I'd probably do the same thing in his shoes. I would still be bitterly disappointed though.

Can someone explain what I've missed with our use of the subs? After half time both our subs took the field - Evans and Barry - but the only player I didn't see again was Tyson. I had assumed JKH had been subbed out in the third, but then he appeared again in the fourth. And Fox told us Trengove and Blease had been subbed out when they clearly hadn't.

It's not about the win for me, it's just the sheer relief of the fact that we played like a footy side. Every other club's supporters are going to think we're carrying on as if we've won the flag, but fuck 'em, none of them have been through what we have. Seeing the light at the end of the tunnel is an awesome feeling.

Not to mention that Tyson was our best player before exiting the game at half time.