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18 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

i'll disagree a bit here - i think it was as much about gawn not being able to be a #1 forward target

grundy was only ever a ruckman, not a forward target, at the end of the day

i do wonder how it would've worked if the skipper hadn't been injured early on vs the bears in rd 2 - the grawndy combo looked okay in pre-season and r1, and then they never really got a decent crack at it outside of that

gawn is the game's generational ruckman; to have him deployed forward for over half the game is to waste a unique playing talent

I do agree with your points and I've said the whole time I'd hoped they'd give it a go for one more year.

But as the season went on something happened to splinter the relationship. (There obviously a lot of speculation about what it was but I have no idea, but it was bloody obvious to all watching).

But back to my point was it round 5 vs Essendon? Grundy got towelled up, I'd argue he wasn't worth the cash.

Edit. I also like that the real reasons haven't come out publically, it shows we were both respectful in parting ways. Otherwise it have been the brick McLean situation all over again.

20 hours ago, Super Sub Schache said:

What a wasted opportunity for Melbourne, we had a chance to double down on our strength in the ruck and continue the two-ruck strategy that worked so well previously.

It might not have worked as well as we hoped, but it was still a hell of a lot better than the alternative (Gawn with broken toe and Schache spending all game as an unused sub). 

Heaven forbid Gawn gets injured again next year.

To be fair to the club, I think it was as much Grundy not being able to play as a forward as much as it was Melbourne's failure to utilise him.

No point having 2x rucks that only play one position.

Surprised we didn't go Curtin 

1 hour ago, Dockett 32 said:

Bit ridiculous rating trade week in isolation of the upcoming kids draft.

Don't take it to heart.

Media need to media or they won't get paid

1 hour ago, seventyfour said:

If we trade for pick 1, there is no doubt i'll be excited to have such a talent on our list.

But he is one player. Imagine he has a career like O'Meara or Rayner.

We could use 6 and 11 on our next centre bounce midfielder and our Steven May replacement. Nail those picks, plus some trades or free agents in 2024/25, and perhaps our premiership window extends.

I 100% agree, but we have to put faith in the FD they know what they're doing.

Sheil has a connection to Williams at dees, I wonder if there is a sneaky chance?

Also good work by the hawks, bombers and cats for holding everything up.

On 10/10/2023 at 19:29, BrisbaneDemon said:

 

So this looks like its booked in to be a trade deadline blockbuster....

The trade period cold have been wrapped up Friday

11 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Maybe I'm the only one that can actually see where Cornes is coming from?

All he's saying is that that now would be the perfect opportunity to cash in with the Crows instead of end of 2025 when they will be deep in finals contention and not have the luxury of having the early first round picks as they do now.

At the end of the day it only works if Petty advises Melbourne that he wants to go home and the Dees think that the Crows early picks are a suitable trade. That hasn't happened and the club has stated that Petty won't be traded, so all good.

It's amazing how some just see the name Kane Cornes and get triggered so easily.. 😅

I don't think it is realistic though.

Unless Petty does a Grundy, he's in the red and blue next year. The MFC have no obligation to let him go.

17 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

kornes is just about generating content

connors was right in his assessment a month or so ago; there's little movement this year as a) clubs are reasonably happy with where their list builds are at, and 2) the cba uncertainty has stymied movement

Spot on.

24 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Petty must be kept.

I said this in the Petty thread and i'll repeat it here.

Petty is a keeper, he's contracted until the end of 2025. If he wants out before then the crows will need to pay up and pay up big, if they don't then don't worry about it.

We want Petty and anything less than 2 top 10 picks won't be enough.

25 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Corn thinks it is a good idea..... haha yep we'll just give up a need becuase Corn says so....

This trade shouldn't go ahead unless we get two top end picks. Guy is 22 and KPF. If he walks in 2 years so be it, but pay up or shove off.

With all the fa compensation and draft assistance getting around I don't think draft picks really hold a lot of value.

We might overpay for him, but what does that really mean if it's for a player which won't be ready to play for at least 3 years from now on average is unlikely to make it.

3 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

I reckon that you've identified the problem here, @Timothy Reddan-A'Blew,

By a) reading his drivel, b) being angered by it and c) responding to it, people are just giving Cornes and his employers exactly what they are looking for.

If we all simply ignored the troll and his "controversial" baiting,  our lives would be so much less stressful.

AFL / media need to generate interest in their product.

This is all that this is.

If it happens or not time will tell but all of this "negotiating" is media driven click bait to fill in time for what generally is a pretty boring time.

Most deals are agreed to in principle before they happen.

1 minute ago, Ouch! said:

3 first round picks and Petty?
ummm, hell no!  I know there is talk about 6,11 and F1 for Pick1, but I think we'd want change in return later on (for Brown)

.... that means Petty for McAdam!

Lemme guess Adam Cooney came up with that megatrade?  I swear they just give him the megatrades to stop him from contributing too much to the conversation!

Spot on, that proposed trade is junk.

24 minutes ago, bing181 said:

They've got 10, 14, 20 - though then nothing after that. 

Unless that turns in to pick 1, would we do it?

We can get out pick back... haha

2 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

I just have missed something with Shane McAdam.  I thought he was a borderline beat 22 at both clubs… how do you ‘play hardball over that’?

 

AFL needs some excitement for next Wednesday night....

Crows don't have the draft capital to get it done

Just now, Demons11 said:

I’m fairly certain Fogarty is bigger than Fritsch and a much more aggressive player.  Fogarty and JVR would hurt some defenders with the way they attack the ball.

Very good, thank you.

2 minutes ago, ChaserJ said:

2 first rounders with a second rounder going back to Melbourne.

That pick ended up being…Harrison Petty.

Haha the irony. Thanks

3 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

I’d love Fogarty

I know he can kick, but isn't he just another Fritsch? Aren't we lacking a bonadife tall?

Doesn't fill a need is what i mean.

All the best JH, you'll always be a much loved Demon and a member of a specil club.

All the best at the dogs.

9 minutes ago, Demon Forever said:

Without mentioning sources etc, I have been told Shane McAdam and Fogarty has been suggested by the dees for a round 1 selection. No me tion of what pick was to be utilised or multiples

With the Petty news floated recently this might have some merrit. I don't think that deal cuts it by any means but interesting times ahead.

Not sold on Fogarty, but i trust our FD know what they're doing.

THis is an interesting watch.

As hes contracted and a required player we'd want a decent return, what did we pay for Lever, i'd assume the compensation should be equivalent to that.

Well done Tracc....

Does he have to play more forward for us to be successful next year? I think so.