John Dee

6. Gawn 5. Hore 4. J Wagner 3. Baker 2. Viney 1. Harmes

6. Salem 5. Oliver 4. Melksham 3. Frost 2. Fristch 1. Harmes

6. Harmes 5. Salem 4. Gawn 3. Lockhart 2. Oliver 1. Brayshaw

6. Gawn 5. Fritsch 4. Preuss 3. Hunt 2. Oliver 1. Jones

C James Harmes

7. Tom Sparrow?

Sorry Dee Zephyr, didn’t see your response And I got the number wrong

9. Corey Maynard

Average and mean are the same thing, I assume you meant median.

6. Harmes 5. Oliver 4. vandenBerg 3. Gawn 2. Salem 1. OMac

6. Viney 5. Oliver 4. TMac 3. Gawn 2. Jetta 1. Harmes

Chaos theory actually relates to there being order in chaos not disorder.

6. Brayshaw 5. Salem 4. Weideman 3. Viney 2. Jetta 1. Harmes

6. Harmes 5. Gawn 4. Brayshaw 3. Frost 2. vandenBerg 1. Hibberd

6. Harmes 5. Gawn 4. Salem 3. Oliver 2. Melksham 1. Jetta

6. Oliver 5. Brayshaw 4. Harmes 3. Salem 2. Hogan 1. Gawn

6. Oliver 5. Gawn 4. Brayshaw 3. Neal Bullen 2. Melksham 1. Petracca

6. Brayshaw 5. Gawn 4. Oliver 3. Melksham 2. Salem 1. OMac

6. Oliver 5. Brayshaw 4. Gawn 3. Salem 2. Petracca 1. Fritch

6. Gawn 5. Hibberd 4. Harmes 3. Fritsch 2. Viney 1. Oliver

Me, for one. I thought he was on very thin ice and gone at year's end. I am very impressed with the way that he has applied himself and the new game plan seems to suit him.

The Rising star voting will be most interesting. I don't really care if Jesse wins it but I don't trust the people who will vote; Lewis Taylor, really? If Cripps and Hogan were lined up and you could only pick one for your football club, it is a no brainer. Everybody, even Carlton supporters, would pick the key forward. They would hate missing out on a gun midfielder but key forwards like Hogan don't come along very often.

Luke Norman

I am quite partial to tobasco.

I think this is my first post on a JW thread. I don't know why I am doing it ... I was watching Casey on Sunday getting flogged and watching Nicho try his guts out - hard running, desperation, second and third efforts without the skill to capitalise on them. I couldn't help but to think of the difference between him and JW, one a sublime talent and the other a sublime trier. Of the two of them, who would you draft; Watts in a heartbeat, all clubs would. I remember hearing a quote from Paul Sheehan a few years back when he said that being so good as a junior did not prepare him to be a Test cricketer; he never knew how to graft runs as he'd never needed to. The parallels with JW are very similar, he was blessed with incredible talent that allowed him to cruise though junior football without having to exert himself.