beelzebub

Who's Les ?

800...hardly worth worrying over really is it ...just saying ..lol

titan...get this through your sconce...please my beef at Watts isnt anything to do with him being a #1 pick per se. Just that he came in highly skilled and with big tickets... and hasnt got to where he ought ....after 6 f'n seasons If you dont quite get the difference between the development path of a gangly semi project ruck taken as a rookie and a highly touted high draft kid.... well

Not expecting anything to particularly change. Maybe a few chairs shuffled on the deck, thats about it. GM has been there for years. Been involved with much. Hes got a better possi in the carpark and a pay rise. Nothing wholesale to happen

often the things left unsaid speak with the greatest volume

Thankyou... the answer is in your misconstruing what is. Spencer is as a Ruckman in his sixth season probably expected to be starting to fulfill his potential and starting to play ( well ) as a #1 ruck. He's not really quite there so hes a bit behind where he might be. Watts coming in as a very highly rated skilled kid , with all requisite abilities in tact just not yet to AFL std. This would normally take anywhere from 1 to 3 seasons to emerge as a consistency. ^ seasons in many are still offering up any number of rationales as to why he hasn't got there. In essence he really hasnt changed a lot. Spencer has come a long long way but is still short of desired. Watts ought to stamping his mark all over the game by now Its not really that hard to get the difference

re read .. i knew youd take out of context

Rucks are supposedly meant to take a hell of a lot longer. ( not excusing him per se though, just explanational ) How about like for like ??

Hes been at this club for 6 seasons. That means preseasons, that means playing and training alongside his fellow Demons. Paint it any way you like hes a 6 season player.

its rocket science OD...excuse the lad

I sometimes think this thread couldn't possibly go off in another direction and then it does. Never disappoints If only our club could emulate. ( though not necessarily by such tangential imitation)

Waiting waiting waiting

my current thinking

I dont really think so/ We have an observation of supposed work in progress and Imnot alone in thinking that theres no progress in reality just regression. I dont really gaf where anyone plays on the field. All this inside outside mumbo jumbo is invariably nothing more than a poor mans attempt at camouflage a lack of basic footy ideology...i.e run hard, tackle hard, play hard , put in, and then again and on and on etc.irrespective of your supposed position or role. These are the non negotiables. Seems some just dont get it...NON...NEGOTIABLE i.e do it or plss off.

sorry Bernie... maybe you need to have another look at those handbag jobs of tackling and the instant 'give ups" of Watts. There's "Laconic style " and then theres playing with no effect. Notice I say effect. Im sure he puts some effort in.it just presents as sfa walks like, sounds like.........

seems to be a trend for ol Buddy...hitting things !!

the karma faeries smacked buddy though. Good investment by the bloods !! lol

There's not much more toxic a paradigm as affects a team than a player that effectively becomes invisible to the rest of the team. In many respects we play with 17 afield when jackie is out there. Why ? He likes playing hot potato, he avoids a pack more than a wowser come shout time and no one really wants to kick it to him. Thats pretty bad. Means oppositions can afford to gang up on someone else because NO ONE rates this guy. I dont like writing this but what else can one surmise

Not going to agree nor disagree with the names as suggested. They are after all an opinion and thats fine here. What I would call into the realm of relevancy is this notion. Look at our list. Who on it would still have been drafted , and yes it calls for speculation , but we can fabricate possibly a mould for such , had they been done so with Roos and Viney in charge ? By this I suggest looking at the nature of recent acquisitions and overlay this with the list. Makes for an interesting excursion into the realm of WHY ? as in why are some on our list now

whod ever have thought that a thread or discussion about Watts would end up heading into the fertilizer siding ?? but given his state of play....probably apt

http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/jack-watts-urged-to-work-harder-20140427-zr0ch.html Its not going un-noticed Watt's it they say about Horses and Water ?

Yep...at 6 games we can see something of note. See the improvements and the glaring deficiencies. Something is happening ......at ast

If there was a line, a line that denoted leniency or blind faith or eternal patience by the Melbourne faithful I fear poor ol Jack crossed it decisively last night. Even the most staunch and most forgiving of this lads efforts must surely realise that JW is a 1st class NQR An absolute gut wrenching shame . He has everything to be anything bar one simple element, the actual will to be that. Its liek he "plays" at a part without actually being it.. So disappointing over to you Roos and the FD....do what must be done

diddums

Im sorry.. (actually not ) ..this guy just is fn useless. What a waste. Like a bunny in headlights ...fair dinkum