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On the face of things yes... totally agree.. yes or go or whatever. Ollie has so why not Tracc ?? And thats the clue. What are his motives ?? My take. He's a footballer, a very good one. Not quite at the top of his game but still 'effective' . Does he feel bound to Melbourne ? Im going to suggest no. You're free to disagree but I do invite you to look at the evidence. He's more than happy to play for us. He's more than happy it seems ( granted ..its a picture being painted ) to play for another. That is the definition of mercenary. I've no problem at all with that. I can understand if others find that unpalatable. He's playing HIS game. I get it. Im fine with it. Sit back, shut up, let the hired help do their jobs. He doesn't owe me squidly... doesn't owe anyone squidly really. Thats just the modern football landscape. He'd line up in a different jumper next year without worrying about what any of us here think nor want. He's a footballer, that's his JOB. If any were paying attention he told us that exact thing only weeks ago. So let's take him at his word. I've no reason to doubt it. To reciprocate the idea I'm happy if he plays for us...am content if he goes and we're compensated. Meanwhile other than the Big Dance the only other game in town is the 🎪. Im pretty sure the club will understand this. Players have a limited time in which to play the game. Part of playing that game for some is playing another. The simple reality of why he can't say this or that is because he can't. He doesn't know himself.... the game hasn't played out to that extent yet.

Careful.... they'll come for you ... lol

StKilda still have to facilitate a trade. [censored] how they do that with all they're trying to accomplish 🤔🤷‍♂️

for the perfect accompaniment just slip a Leonard Cohen platter on the ol' turntable !!

Traccs world is the internet... apparently it exists outside of Melbourne.

Why do you suppose such ? Willful thinking Willmoy ? This time last year he was open to a move. I really dont think much has changed. I can certainly accommodate the idea there's a bit of 'pushing the envelope of credibility' when it comes to 'footy news' but I do often suspect the font of much knowledge, well scuttlebutt often emanates from the poorly plumbed fountains owned by player managers.

Clarity, Perspective and Intelligent understanding.

And again i go back to the basic question... are we setting out to create a champion team or a team with a few champions. Invariably there are teams ( playing well ) where quite a few on their list were relative unknowns a few years ago. A top team has more than a smattering of good players, playing their role well topped off with a relative handful of very good players and often a standout or two. The gameplan and coaching is super important. It's about marrying up all of this into a cohesive effective unit. The idea that the panacea to an ailing team is some sort of silver bullet in the form a defecting champion is imho an absolute furphy. We need to worry more about our 'system'... how we play more than this bloke or that.

Where Flanders ends up may not be quite as simple as 'i wanna go there'. He's still contracted ,but a wantaway. Much will depend on suitable trades available. It might just be Melbourne are in a better position for that trade than the Aints. Time will tell. Exciting..... the Circus is coming.🎪🤡😂

Not sure there’s any particularly advantageous way of doing so..

I have no idea as to the terms of either's contract offer. I think it would be premature to discount the King connection. When others didn't show faith ( so much ) in Flanders, King did. Be very surprised if that goes unremembered. What bearing it may have 🤷‍♂️

I've now a distinct impression.. Is ONLY my opinion.... I'm inclined to think that since Tracc's unfortunate injury and dealings on the sidelines that he became particularly jaded with things. As a result ( again just my thoughts ) he may have developed into a more mercenary athlete. Some of his remarks since could be read in that vein. Or I could be totally on the wrong Track 😉 As such, if of this bent, it would be very easy ne possibly quite prudent to just sit back, say nothing and let your manager take the calls and field the offers. It will not surprise me one bit if he up and leaves. That said he could stay and play. It will be whatever suits. Can't say I blame him if this is his view on it all. His all but Freudian slip at the Bluey suggest that this is "his job" fits this mould of thinking to a T. Go Dees

Just posturing possibly. Big tent not up yet 😉 🎪🤡

Am sure he'd find himself some nice digs close to Metricon. Not far to get away to Noosa when wanting. Choppers do Coolangatta to Noosa ..

Or..... instead of saying anything.... Say nothing and let it all unfold.... if it ( wherever you were quietly looking to head to ) fell over there is sort of plausible deniability. Think I'm seeing the clouds lifting...... Go Dees

And it would be very Melbourne ( luck wise ) if he did that elsewhere.

Tbh... thats my view too. But I can see the other side of the coin. I wouldn't choose that course but get some will. You dont always need to fan the sparks and embers to cause a fire. Sometimes you just need to walk away. The silence does increase my curiosity.

Ghosty... the Circus is coming anyway. Come monday when there is no other news ( immediate) than Trade, given the absence of any narrative framing it will ALL be invented. Granted 99% is anyway. Im truly not sure though what is worse.. saying nothing or something ( non specific ) It will be presumed by some ( media ) that saying nothing is to avoid incriminating himself and their next question or segway is what/why. Granted its very reminiscent of that classic " when did you stop beating your wife " type of situation. We'll all see how it all pans out soon enough I suppose... 🤡🎪🤡

Yes and No... If he was genuinely against the idea he only has to say so. Nothing more nothing less. Given the history he , whether warranted, deserved or otherwise, would, as a social media savvy person be aware vacuums are filled. Exhibit A ... Oliver. No one is suggesting, dare I say, that he has to but not saying anything will invite any number of explanations. If he isn't prepared to initiate or control the narrative then no one ought be surprised question marks appear. Something like.. "I've enjoyed this season and am happy at Melbourne. I've no particular desire to look to a trade and am very much looking forward to Steve (King) coming on board and discussing how we all work towards a more successful '26 " Doesn’t open doors, Doesn’t shut doors. And we all move along...

Leçon 1 : Utiliser l'ordinateur. De rien. 😂

Wt f are you doing....talking sense... stop it, stop it !! The truth as they say often lies in the middle somewhere. Are we pushing him out ? Doubt it. Has he asked for a trade ? Seemingly not. That's the black and white of it so to speak. Ahhh.. but the grey. All the half said and inferred things... the if's, maybes and could/should/woulds. A simple reality , distasteful to some, is that the idea has not been unequivocally shut down. It could be, but it hasn't. There is only one takeaway from that and that the possibility is live. Note live, not necessarily likely nor probable.... but possible. This to me simply spells pragmatism. Im all for pragmatism.. Go Dees

I've lost the plot ?? lol Firstly... I said should he go. Where did I say we would get 'nothing' of he did. You seem to pick and choose. Good luck.with that. Im happy enough understanding where we really are. You're perfectly entitled to your own views. If he does decide to seek other pastures the contract is just something to be accommodated.

You're dreaming. Your expectations are not in the realm of "now" . Should he go, You're going to be bitterly disappointed I'm afraid.

🤔🤷‍♂️ Thought it was early preseason