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Well these issues may foster resentment, may create rise to counter-productive tendencies. Where as teams thrive on sycronicity having some splinter off with festering dissatisfactions doesn't promote across the board comradeship. It creates factions. If I recall correctly this very idea broached surface some whiles back. The culture of a club is everything, the philosophy through to how standards are followed as well as edicts. Unhappy campers are not good for team spirit. Footy is more often than not a game of very small percentages ( we got that bit nailed eh... ) but by that I mean the difference between 97% effort and 100% is where the mind is at and if there's the slightest of niggle because someone feels ever so slightly peeved then your making it easier for your opponents. Culture isn't the pretty words spoken at dinners... culture is your mates having your back. All marching to a single beat.

Only somewhat ? 🤔 Note to self : Need to try harder

I'll have a go at this. There's a possibility that players can become disenfranchised if they are not rewarded for effort. If players see others favoured. If some feel the fix is in. If some are not afforded the development they were assured they'd get. There may well be more than the above but I could imagine these at least would grind away.

31?

Couldn't be any clearer bar for those that will not see.

A good write up which to me raises even more questions, especially in the forward half. Why so little leading.. or kicking to advantage ? Surely this is the B that goes with A ?? I, indeed most observers, see very little creation of targets. If you're going to move the ball quickly you need spread and targets. Do our coaches know this ?? 🤔 Are they telling anyone? Do they train this ? We still in my view play a very one dimensional game. It's all about out defence. Even in the forward 50 it seems more about defending the arc than actually knowing how to attack. I would have always thought the emphasis would automatically morph from defence to attack as you cross the centre. It strikes me we don't. We maintain this defending mindset. It's all wrong. We seem more concerned about countering opposition defenders than thinking they should be worrying about us. In a fashion I kind of get Frittas attitude ( or what appears to be ) of being more occupied in his play about attacking and less the other. I must admit my thinking when playing was never about a "defensive" mindset up forward it was always attack. If i had it it was to score or score assist. If they had it it was to attack them to get the ball to score or score assist. Never entered my mind to 'defend' the zone, guard the ball etc. We seem to do a lot of strange things...and also a lot of things by halves. But back to 'speed ball'.. speed isnt everything. Ought to keep in mind Haste makes Waste. By all means be decisive, be expedient but I would have tbought above all, be USEFUL. We seem fast, but wasteful. There's no one size ( or speed ) fits all answer. What skills tuition do we employ ? Other teams have this much better balanced and organised.

No one's arguing that. What exactly did we accomplish ?

Yes, you could bet there'd be black and white wrappings on those goalposts at Goschs quicker than you could blink ;)

Port is wonderful ...if you live in Port. It's a cow of a place to get to, and out of otherwise. We're we ever offered Waverley ?

Quite frankly I don't understand why simple messages aren't getting through. It's not hard. I've played in teams where the coach was adamant.. "No wild kicking, no bombing, DO NOT kick to a contested goal square".. " hold it ... ( then turning to.us).. lead .. get rid of your man ...give these guys ( pointing to mids etc ) something to [censored] kick to " .. any bombing I'll drag you... !! Guess what we did as he said.. didn't take us 3 seasons of fluffing around.. a few got dragged.. some did extra laps... some dropped.. but the message was LOUD, CLEAR .. and UNDERSTOOD. BTW.. there is a difference between a long kick specifically to advantage ( indeed a player ) and a wild thumping hail Mary of a bomb.. I'm stuffed if I can understand what Goody tells them... or why they keep playing dumb footy.

Well I'll make a promise Macca. It will bring joy to many i have no doubt. If Goodwin is coaching next year . I.e if he isn't sacked at this seasons end or there about, I will refrain from even a single post til the end of H/a '26. There will be no interest or care on my part . It will be a similar malaise. It will be a waste of a year and I've better things to see and do than watch 24/25 repeat.

Doing both wouldn’t hurt.

Mate.. stop this 2.7 malarkey.. ffs it was only 2.5 yesterday lol. You're pulling numbers out your proverbial

There's reality in and amongst that without doubt. Just suppose .. we beat Blues and Weagles ( maybe as we are talking Melbourne...and both Eagles and Carlton are just as capable of spanking a team who think they've already got the chokkies ) .. but let's say. That's 7 wins... hell let's throw in another for the sake of discussion. 8 wins. 3 LESS than 24. The trajectory is indisputable. Straight sets, straight sets, fail, dismal fail...... The drums will be deafening...

Don't be so sure We aren't winning much more for the year. The Elephants in the room will be loud.

Any news... Or been "scratched"

I'd agree... and will be further wasted if we don't change path.. just my opinion.... of course

Bravo.... It strikes me as a classic case of interim/caretakers not wanting to stir or muddy waters lest they end up part of washup themselves. Hate to say this but we lack the backbone that a successful org needs. We're just too NICE a mob. It does run like a boys club, not an accountable business. Do these people really strive for success or is it more about cozy cloisters ? A great place to hobnob and network ? There was a sense of hunger before 21.. none now... Carry on chaps... pass the cheese and Shiraz

Again... and not just to annoy Binman this is why stats are rubbish , misleading and erroneous. We're supposedly this that and the other and all of it is spurious as a lot of what we do is ineffectual. Ffs it's what you do with the bloody ball. There are umpteen nuances exits with a ball on any given play. Most are sliding door moments... a split second this way or that equates to two very ( at least 2 ) different outcomes. But stats always homogenise. It's not just a matter of attempting to quantify/qualify what we're doing at the time but you have to temper/ adjust what the circumstances are/were in terms of any opponents actions. The variables are exponential really. Strangely , to my mind, your ability to interpret much of this is actually quite good by eye. You get a reasonable appreciation of ' that was easy/hard/ lucky/ brilliant' etc How many times do we sit watching a game frustrated when we see the moves required but the players take a soft or worse stupid course. But the stats rack up . I still think we are very capable as observers of deducing the efficiency of play . Speed isn't everything. Effect is. Tempo is the most misunderstood quality in play in my judgement. Clever players micro adjust ; it's not just bang whack, slap the ball. If you play like that you'll be hammered by more skilled teams. Sound familar

One could argue this too is a product of his making ?? At least he's complicit. Bit like a parent trying to be a friend

What if they are being instructed to do something that is fundamentally flawed ?? Because that's the first thing that comes to my thinking. I've for a long time said our forward problems are an incurrence of design. A lot of how we play is for mine very counter intuitive. So I naturally extend my suspicion to think a lot of what we do is by instruction , albeit executed poorly but maybe that's a product of poor oversight ? We play "ODD" footy imho

Arrrkkk..... Simon has to go.... aaarrrkkkk... Simon Macca. I've seriously never known football to be that hard of a game ( deciphering modern day umpiring aside ) . I can't believe professional players can't execute team plays after a full preseason. Mind boggling really. They're not learning another language, not having to learn Systems Engineering.... not Rocket Surgery eh. It's football, something they've done invariably since they could kick a ball at school. Only so many variations and plays !! My question is what the actual !@$# are they being told to do ?? It ain't working