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beelzebub

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    Tbh.. I'm not so much of the "good riddance" thinking, though i can certainly understand it.

    Im more a pragmatic ideologist. It's to me very much a "that was then, this is now" kind of thing.

    What worked , and in hindsight.... how on earth... in 21 is not what's needed nor desired now.

    Clayton simply isn't a 'fit' for Melbourne going forward. As it transpires he's not alone.

    Thats how things evolve and thats all I can be bothered concerning myself with in regards Melbourne is what's going to work, what's going to make us better.

    I suggested ages ago we needed harsh pruning to save the rose bush.

    And so it has happened.

    An often quoted wisdom is " you're either part of the solution or part of the problem"

    Evaluations have been made and acted upon.

    It's really just this.

    Take out all the emotion....

    Just see it all with Clarrification 😉

    27 minutes ago, picket fence said:

    Wrong, King did not even give him a chance, not one chance, he had decided that he didn't want him around, that's HIS responsibility

    Mate... I'm going to explain something for you here.

    You know sweet [censored] all about what really transpired. For that matter nor do I.

    The difference between you and I is I can see beyond a myopic view.

    You dont have to be too clever ( so I qualify ) to look at the big picture and see all the things that lead to Clarry spitting the dummy.

    He's a prodigiously talented sportsman but he's not the sharpest tack. Again he's his own worst enemy.

    In many respects he's still a teenager stuck in a man's life. For his sake I hope he figures it out but tbh I dont really care. They are his and some other club's issue.

    I have absolutely no doubt in my mind he was one of the biggest distractions and cause for much angst for more than a few of the playing group.

    What he does here on in is up to him. It matters not to the greater well being of the MFC.

    You're very quick to cast blame to others but history always shows the blame ultimately rests with the individual, the one making choices. His weren't too clever.

    Go Dees

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    11 minutes ago, picket fence said:

    King has done nothing as yet, but got rid of a once in a generation champion of this club and make no mistake this was a calculated power play

    You make me laugh. Thanks... I can always do with a laugh.

    The thing you persistently avoid is the understanding that the only person responsible for what happens to Oliver.... is Oliver.

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    3 hours ago, Wrecker46 said:

    He couldn’t walk on water even baby Jesus, who Ablett jnr was called by his mates at Gold Coast couldn’t but I’m pretty sure is was Moses in the bible who parted the sea.

    It’s not hyperbole to say somebody is the best player you have ever seen play for your club.

    Gawn and Robbie Flower are up there and better clubmen but Clarrie is the best I have seen

    Did you ever watch Tulip ?

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    10 hours ago, picket fence said:

    No well I have Flower, Oliver and Barrassi as 1,2,3 and you say not even close???? By what metric??

    If you really need the difference spelled out to you you're not half as bright as I've allowed.

    One was a stand up guy.. 6 flags... captained the club... WAS the club. But the club was the issue.

    We're paying a bloke to [censored] off

    You can't see that ? You don't want to see that ?

    The guy helped as part of a team but he was also very much part of the problem. And we had problems.

    Seems like we were again a very compromised club.

    But hey... you go with whatever floats your boat picket.. Clarry.. rah rah rah

    Tbh... he's his own worst enemy.

    He is someone else's problem now. I really couldn't care less.

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    6 hours ago, DeeZone said:

    It was nice having the training files to distract me yesterday as I spent quite a few hours in hospital yesterday having Angiogram to gauge the extent of a main artery blockage into my heart. Fortunately I did not require a Stent and can manage the issue with medication, phew.!!😥 big relief for me and family, a bit sore but extremely happy that I didn’t waste my 2026 MFC Membership.lol.!! I certainly Bleed Red ❤️but couldn’t discern any 💙.

    Very glad to hear you're on the mend.

    Strange things angiograms 😉

    Take care

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    50 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

    A little known fact I’ve uncovered about Riley Onley is that in 2024 as an underage player, he represented Victoria Country in the National Under 18 Championships on three occasions. In so doing, he was a teammate of Harvey Langford and Xavier Lindsay which means that the Demons might well have recruited three future midfield stars from the one interstate representative team.

    There's quite the Gippsland 'influence' occurring.. look beyond the players 😉

    No mere coincidence

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    My basis for tempered optimism goes to a number of elements. Each of which would offer a bit of hope but together might prove surprising.

    Even in a very "wonky" season we showed some resolve, a bit of resilience just not a lot of footy nouse. We've got players who haven't been fully available. If only one or two improve in this area things get better immediately. The likes of Lever come to mind. Some just started to step up.. only for the Gods to step on. AMW for instance

    We've got ( and I'm not including just yet the new crop ) players who will benefit from another preseason. Lindsay and Langford for example.

    There's players who might have something but were put in the wrong box... Ol' Bill being such a player.. a block of games to see if he can bring his footy i.q.. and kick up a gear to AFL level. He might..he might not....

    Then we have players who ought to go back to doing what they do best. Petty as a defender and Roo as a 2nd fwd... get that #1 off him and teach him about 'space'

    Culley will be all the better in 26 for a gallop in 25. Is it Kentfield time 🤔 need to find out.

    At this point in bring in the obvious element. New coaching. New ways. The era of crash bang whack it in the boot , drop it on a forwards head....are GONE.

    We will swarm and deliver unto our forwards in a more considered targeted manner. Yes Martha we're going to play footy ...PROPERLY!!! I dont think our skills overall will magically improve overnight but with concerted attention we will think about what were doing and it will make a huge difference. Keep in mind how many games 2-3 goals would have had a different outcome. Confidence is a path and it takes those initial steps under guidance but it can and will grow as I fervently believe we now have better educators.. Some of the existing coaches will themselves learn... and that flows on.

    Then we sprinkle on top some new prospects. If I were to notice a common trait among the noobs it might be this. They can all get the ball....and they all seem to have an idea of what comes next. This is where hopefully better support and guidance will develop those raw abilities into genuine weaponry.

    Last year we weren't rubbish we just weren't good enough long enough. We had some magnificent brain fades and tbh I dont think a few ( more than ) were as fit as needed.

    There's going to be a changing of the guard through the coming season. That might cost us a game or two as the new cogs learn to mesh cohesively and fluidly.

    Lastly... and i dont think this is in any fashion insignificant... there will be minimum DISTRACTION.

    There has been to my eye elements of clicks, divisions, schism and disharmony about Melbourne.. From 22 onwards something hasn't been right. Much beneath the surface but you could see ( well i saw it ) a lack of ONENESS out there. Whether this was players getting burnt, others expressing a 'niggle' ..players dropping a yard or two.. you know those 1% things . If they disappear... you're cooked.

    This will end . We will play as a team ( united ) again as those thwarting this wont play.

    I have a good ( strangely) feeling about the coming season.

    Out of the fires of hell will rise a Phoenix.

    Go Dees

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