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ten Doeschate is a talented and creative one day batsman. Takes risks putting the ball behind square with delicate scoops or guides down to third man when not in place. England is "all over the shop now" and would be very nervous in the chase with the bat. Netherlands have hit three boundaries off Anderson to get 15 off the over. Now 5/274 with 2 overs remaining. Botham thinks 300 is on the cards and Strauss is shaking his head more than Stevie Wonder saying no to a hair cut. edit ten Doeschate out for 119. Great innings for his country. edit: Just got worse for England - they had three men inside the circle when Broad skittled a Dutchman (can you tell not sure who...) , batsman now recalled. 6/286 - 1 over remaining... haha. Go the Dutch ! Paul Collingwood the culprit running into the circle. Nice one umps.

All quiet on the Cricket front here....anyway watching the England v Netherlands game in the World Cup. Could be witnessing a big big upset here. Netherlands are 5/255 in the 47th over. Magnificent innings by Ryan ten Doeschate on 118* off 106 balls and making England look second rate. If the Netherlands can put any pressure on the Poms top order, could be a big upset on the cards.

Avg. 67.75

Yeah I know. Given the players that were playing and quality of the opposition I classified them as ODI. Interesting first post Einstein007 - and btw welcome to D'land. Not sure about players losing interest after 'real cricket' given the dynamics and player personnel of the two forms three forms are quite different; granted some players play more than one form of cricket - some cases all forms (ie Watson, Johnson). Given Watson's (*serious player*) performances in all three forms, there is no evidence there of him losing any interest.

Clarke's last four ODI innings: 54, 82, 7, 73

I watched the last few overs. Wow. Maxwell hit the fastest 50 for domestic cricket. (I think that is what I heard M.Waugh say). 50 off the last 5 overs was needed. Suspense the last over...6 off 5; 4 off 4; 3 off 3; 2 off 2; 1 off 1...and run out chance last ball ! Thanks for that. Feel for him after a fantastic summer and run feast.

Marsh has tweaked a hammy hasn't he ?

Heard Mike Hussey express his displeasure at being left out and not being given the chance to return to full fitness early in the World Cup campaign. He mentioned that he thought a precedent had been set with Andrew Symonds last world Cup when he returned half way through having injured his arm/bicep in the lead up to the last World Cup during the ODI series in Australia. He is spitting chips. Where does he stand now ? I'm happy to see Ferguson given the chance and I think Krejza will be handy on the sub continent. Looking forward to the World Cup now.

I thought they were about right. I just hope they don't appeal... That would have been amusing. Much like his date with Tait to the AB medal. I was a little surprised he was rested from the last ODI against England, given he was starting to perform with the bat though. I'm sure Cameron White enjoyed it, all the same. I'll come back to that Nasher...in a week.

Indeed. Both he and Ferguson formed an important partnership too. Ferguson looked very good. White needs to be out there longer.

Back in form Clarke having posted 82 off 70 balls and steering Australia to victory. The opening stand played a big part though - so it must be made mention of. Clarke looked more sure of himself, that's what Australia needs from him. Class innings by Trott and thoroughly deserved MOTM.

Haddin's dismissal was dismal. Terrible. Same for Prior's dismissal too. Re: Club cricket. CA had to say no IMO - can you imagine had he gone out cheaply in club cricket ? Besides, it is better preparation to be facing Finn, Anderson & Co. in this format for the World Cup.

Question 1 / So, who should captain WYL (other than Ricky) ? And who should Clarke be replaced with, seeing as you don't want him in the One Day side ? Question 2 / Does 54 off 74 balls count (top score) ? *AUST wins ODI series against England. Currently 4-1. I thought Clarke batted watchfully and carefully. The kind of innings where he had to dig in with D.Hussey and form a partnership as the team was in a precarious position. Whilst I didn't like the way he went out, he was integral to the Aussies posting ~250. I also think his captaincy whilst fielding is more than adequate. Winning form is good form.

As Neil Diamond once famously sung out in Crunchy Granola Suite - Good Lord ! WYL, did you even read what AoB had to say, because the above quotes prove you didn't or totally ignored him ! No, you don't get it. How on earth can you suggest Clarke play 4 day club cricket, when (as AoB points out), it's not possible ! The only prep Clarke needs is the current One-Dayers against England. Top level stuff.

WYL, they have backed Clarke in until after the World Cup (ref: Greg Chappell). I fail to see the reasoning behind "3 games to go" as it is most evident there are more than three games, given the Cup includes at least several games.

Indeed. He will have to be pushed if he is to go. My suggestion for CA: I've read it bit over the Summer in relation to the structure of Australian cricket and respected views from alot of media from within the cricket fraternity (ie. Geoff Lawson, Roebuck, Reed, etc to name a few) even down to the great wisdom and visionary of the one and only WYL . This suggestion admittedly, has been mooted by Roebuck and I think it might well be worthwhile looking at. The bloke CA might be interested in talking to, to help take cricket forward in Australia, played over 45 Sheffield Shield games for Western Australia alongside the great Dennis Lillee during the 70's. He represented Australia in Hockey as a player with high distinction , even as Captain, and now coaches the Australian Men's Hockey team ( the Kookaburra's) with success. He is Dr. Ric Charlesworth. He has also been highly successful coaching the Australian Women's Hockey Team to World Champion and Olympic Champion status for a lengthy period of time. In between, he has had various stints with Fremantle Football Club as an assistant coach and helped out where necessary putting structure's in place. I think he definitely has the credentials and know-how, if interested, to add something to benefit cricket in Australia - whether that be coaching or getting structures (ie. it might be coaching structures, state level structures, management or even fixturing of the three forms to benefit all forms, etc..) in place to improve cricket in this country. If anything, he is indeed over qualified for such task as Roebuck suggests here. In this article, it even mentions his level of interest for coaching Australia at the time Bob Simpson became coach of Australia. *Charlesworth has since been quoted as being interested, but he has immediate plans for now - particularly coaching the Men's hockey team to Gold (again) at the London Olympics - so perhaps down the track. Certainly CA should at the very least speak to him IMO and sound him out. Even if it means picking his brain for a short stint. * I've been fortunate to hear him speak and talk about his plans and strategies as coach of the Men's Hockey team prior to the Champion's Trophy last year. I have a particularly keen interest in the sport. He is nothing short of sensational and very impressive in communicating. Definitely has a great mind, and it comes as no surprise he was a genius on the pitch when playing. The same mind & determination that also saw him a regular in the Sheffield Shield with a great eye. It also came as no surprise to find the Kookaburra's whip hosts India's butt in the final for the Champion's Trophy - 7-0 !! IIRC. On a personal note, the sport of Hockey is a sensational game and should be of more significance in Australia, seeing as our country has dominated for a period of time in both men's and women's hockey at a world (international) scale. I recognise why other sports are more popular and are promoted more domestically and why they have more numbers - with good reason no doubt.

Good argument put forward AoB. But I'm afraid it won't make an impression...

I held the same view - for Test cricket in particular. Certainly injury has played a big part in that regard. He has done well to get back in time. It will be interesting to see how he goes in India. I'll search for his stats over there and see how they stack up. He did bowl around the ~145km/h mark with good control, which is not pedestrian by any stretch. So he is still pretty slick. As he stated post match, he may well provide good experience for the younger bowlers over there. edit: According to stats - Cricinfo ESPN Brett Lee's ODI record in India is: 13 Matches - 13 innings he bowled in - Overs - 98.2 Maidens - 8 Runs - 472 Wickets - 13 Avg. - 36.30 S/Rate - 45.3 Economy - 4.80 Games against in India: India - 9 West Indies - 2 (1/45 off 8 overs) New Zealand - 1 (2/31 off 8 overs) England - 1 (0/25 off 9 overs) Best Bowl - 3/37 off 8 overs against India @ Deccan. (Hyderabad) *Brett Lee's overall ODI bowling average is 22.85 - economy 4.71

And maybe you should be more accountable and fess up your mistaken views. He is right. You WYL, made predictions prior to the Summer that CA faced poor crowd attendances. They have been anything but ! Record Test Match crowds and healthy figures for the T/20 & ODI's to date. Thankfully your views escaped the "great Demonland crash of 1/11" and are plain for all to see.

I wouldn't be surprised if David Saker was even on CA's radar. This successful tour by the English has now put his name up in neon lights. There would be plenty of other options available. Mind you - it's not all about David Saker, it's about those blokes named Tremlett, Bressnan, Anderson, Finn & Swann applying what they know to be the best plan. ie. Giving the Aussies no room, outside off and varying their balls waiting for mistakes by the Aussies. Strategic planning is the first step and some of these processes may well already be in place, but will take time to bear fruit. Lawson's article that titan posted recently gives much insight IMO and the fundamentals that need to be addressed.

What were the arguments put forward RR ?

How on earth 1st vs 2nd wasn't able to have the option of referrals is beyond me. The ICC should either have it for all Test Matches or not at all. Not here and there in my view. While I'm at it, if we're going to use technology get it right. Let the 3rd umpire have hotspot, hawkeye and the snicko technology at their disposal. Paul Harris missed out on getting Dravid out which was plum (hitting middle stump). Hit the pad first before bat clearly on replay. They weren't able to refer, had the technology been available, Dravid would have been out and the Test may have taken a late turn (at the very least a different path).

Common sense prevails.

Make that 20 catches. Tend to agree with 45 given the comparitive data and argument presented re: Haddin/Prior. I was of the same opinion of the Watson/Strauss talking point...up until that run out. Or should I reflect on the run outs in the series. Watson has looked wonderful at times and so sure in striking the ball. Nothing looks better than his off drives for four. Technically and yet powerfully so sound. He just....let's himself down - with what I call blonde moments (hope none of you are blonde ) - brain fades which let himself and his team down. IMO Hughes was just as much to blame having not run the first hard as well as his hesitation. That runout today was school boy stuff.

Found that a very interesting article by someone in the know (former Pakistan coach...) and found this quite interesting from Lawson: