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"on the line" doesn't mean in front of the line they can have their body behind the line with their head inches behind the line when necessary there is no situation they need to be in front of the line and in the field of play boundary umps have to decide line decisions too and they can do it with going into the field of play

with my libertine leanings i think an indefinite ban is too harsh i think a ban until our next premiership would be more merciful

no point. it would still be inconclusive but like richmond i would be furious if it was us

and probably 10x your mental age mjt, with 100x your sense of humour

I don't understand your comment re systematic A supplement program being systematic is not an offence A supplement program in itself is not an offence All clubs have some form of systematic supplement program The only issue is whether the supplement program contained banned substances and who participated and the circumstances

i heard his interview on radio. he talked generally and he refused to comment directly on current cases I'm well aware what he said. What he didn't say was what an appalling record wada has had in combatting drug abuse and how desperate they are for scalps no matter what. Look, i'm not suggesting JT is not in a difficult situation, just trying to explore all avenues. These things are never as black and white as some spokesmen would try and paint them Also at the end of the data wada/asada/acc/afl have to work within the framework of justice and the law, not just their own rules It is interesting for example that a poster pointed out that the ACC web site listed aod as a non-banned substance at the time

i told you they would only take one emergency od you owe me a banana split (with extras)

Great win - Willy rated as one of the top teams Go Scorps

you seem to revel in pessimism i can be a bit of a cynic but sometimes you turn it into an art-form by always taking the worst possible outcome you need to cheer up a bit, go and have a drink or something

exactly mc, a right mess - good pickup - pass it on to the club mate

rubbish post, he's got more loyalty than that. If he's [censored] with anyone it would be the dr and wada's inflexible obsessions that'd be mano to rhino - lol

that's the 64K question i'm just desperately searching for anything in his favour as far as worst possible banning i doubt he would get 2 years if deemed technically guilty. that would be greatly unfair and put a large spotlight on wada i'm hoping best case is he gets off, worst case 6 mths

except, on a procedural level the cream "appears" to be approved for human use under "cosmetic" regulations this at least seems to show some inconsistency in how drugs get classified and maybe this inconsistency can be exploited

? you just repeated eaxctly what i said. did you have a point?

are you saying JT didn't query the doctor? and what would you do if having queried the doctor and been told it was not on the wada banned list? are you really suggesting that in every case the player should then contact asada? do you know how many sportsmen in the country come under the wada code? Can you imagine them only being satisfied by going to asada every time?

you prove my point doc a] there is a no fault clause (which is the point i was making) b] JT still has a chance even if slim i've heard the so-called only case of someone getting off because they were unconscious (in fact i have previously quoted it) that doesn't prove that that will be the only reason going into the future i'm not claiming things look rosy, quite the opposite, but there is always a slim chance especially if everyone is satisfied that JT is not a drug cheat, which i don't think he is call me old fashioned but i'd like to believe that natural justice can prevail over arbitrary rules

dunno about lynch mobs i worry about "the day of the gifs"

a very slim maybe. today's article in the age came from the club (some at least) and was an ample opportunity to clear up that issue if he didn't take a cream containing aod i'm sure we would have heard by now esp as the club said what the injected players had and that it did not include any of the banned items mentioned on the 7:30 report. but....we wait and see

there are also no denials, so at this stage i'm presuming he took the cream as directed

yeah stuie, do a solid. bet you can't find a gif for that

Hey Stuie, ever feel you are bashing your head against the wall? http://awesomegifs.com/wp-content/uploads/cat-jumps-into-mirror.gif

close, but no cigar there is an exceptional circumstances clause it remains to be seen if this can apply to JT no matter how slim you might think the odds if they want to be draconian it will end up in courts on appeal and drag on for years, which no-one wants personally i think being the scapegoat for tanking is our fair share of scapegoating in one year

well if i haven't got the Hun and I haven't got any alpaca clippings then i guess grass clippings will have to do, just not on my favourites list. YMMV

agree, it would be an upgrade on the grass clippings you currently use