daisycutter

they can always use next year's draft picks, so they do have options of course that may not be to gcs17's liking

yes, yes. i know the 4 years is not an option in this case i just posed that as a future hypothetical where retaining contract payment would be a complete farce

yep always thought brad was a reasonable player who never quite took that next step i kept waiting for it, but his decision making often let him down

yes, it is quite odd. i don't have much interest in it at all my wife had a different take on it. she was somewhat critical of sam to bring all these personal matters up as an attempt to promote and publicise her new child minding business venture i thought she was a bit harsh but i didn't convince her (nothing new there - lol)

hmmmm....i take your points a real can of worms. under wada laws you can now be banned for upto 4 years and nothing stops you being fully paid under a contract for 4 years? i would have to think the employer has some options within the contract to take action maybe in the filth case they just decided not to exercise their options?

i wouldn't presume a banned player is entitled to payment whilst banned, especially if he just negotiated a new contract however stranger things have happened on top of that a banned player could well sue essendrug for lost wages and other damages the outcome of which could be unpredictable (and prolonged) it's one of those areas the media for some reason doesn't want to explore

maybe you're right jara but i object to everytime there is an unusual climate event people immediately point the finger and say see i told you so but nobody said much when last summer was mild after so many experts predicted a summer from hell nor was there much chatter when last winter was colder than many for decades one must be wary when being selective with the evidence in front of them, eh?

we'll just have to settle for jeffies jaffas instead

disagree. fa receiving clubs should always pay. to avoid any possible failure of receiving/relinquishing club agree on payment the afl would use the points style system they are introducing with f/s and academy players. in this case the afl would determine the "price" and the receiving club would be docked the points which they could pay out of this year/next year picks. simple further more when the afl determine the points "price" it can be scaled for equalisation purposes. i don't see why the receiving club should get a bonus and all the other clubs effectively subsidise the move this way the player gets to his club and the recipient club pays a fair price to the relinquishing club a fair return

nah, just the odd dummy spit here and there.....bau

and underestimate (or wilfully ignore) any wada actions tbd the elephant is still in the room

no-one has said both salem and melksham will playing off the half back line next year, chook in fact if melksham plays hbf i'd expect salem to be elsewhere

only with respect to bananas, red

and the wada risk wasn't worth a big discount? with that risk we are effectively giving the equivalent of a discounted first rounder and four years just adds to the risk but we should all be happy?

i don't have 100% faith in anyone that level of faith is for fundamentalist zealots

picket fence

damaged goods sword of wada hanging over him high 2nd round pick i don't think so

where is the discount for wada risk?

asked for a trade! well i'll be buttered on both sides didn't see that coming

ah back on topic.....nice one r+b

but, but, he got the tick from the great hannabal at the time. i remember his impassioned arguments well

why does irony immediately spring to mind?........hmmm

well that, yes bj. plus with his new and highly successful marriage guidance and counselling business (ask stuie) he may be too busy to find the time to return

and three would be a crowd