daisycutter

ok, define cheap then. 2nd round? 3rd round? trade?

it "might" pan out that way, depending what you mean by "cheap", but all i'm saying is don't just assume it.

why will mccarthy come cheap? if it looks to be too cheap, gws can call their bluff again and put him in the draft. no great skin off their nose at this stage. wc then get a chance to pick him up cheap (or even a non wa club possibly). more to play out here i think. afl might even step in to assure their love-child is not treated too shabbily

thought jake's ruck work was as bad as i've seen from him. comprehensively beaten......pretty well agree with the rest

nothing article. all based on the word "if". of course they would be interested if hogan declared he was going home to wa. Do you think they would say they wouldn't be?

my impression too. lot of room for improvement from some. A few really carried the load. Dunny bog for mine

well yeah, over-compressing is another big problem, but i don't think you get a reading on that on your telly

he took a mark in the last quarter and the commentator said he had been "superb" today.......sheesh

yep, haven't seen him so completely beaten in the ruck, and by a guy a foot shorter. completely out positioned and outthought. the couple of taps he has got have gone nowhere. we badly need a backup for maximus and jake aint it.

yes, but that includes up-scaling. not the same as filmed in 1080i broadcast in 1080i

he's had his chances though and not taken them

port melb ground has always been a dump, earl. pathetic decision by vfl to play finals there

good quarter boys hope spencer picks his game up, getting a bath in the ruck from a much shorter guy

yeah, think i may have mistook him for garlo a couple of times

garland showing great run and carry - who would've thunk that?

middle of the ground reminds me of the old suburban vfl grounds. plus the 50m arc only a metre or so from the centre square. wonder why they couldn't play at carlton. wonder if the locals still spit on the players as they go through the race

you a life-coach now, pro? next you will be giving stuie moral advice. lol

i've even been known (on an adventurous day, and with the appropriate apparel) to make it as far as the wilds of box hill north, bbo

it's because you get great box choi there, wyl

west coast and freo can't trade their 2016 + future 2017 round 1 picks as they would fall foul of the afl's 2 first round picks in 4 years rule neither club used a first round pick in 2015 the only way they could trade 2016 + 2017 first round picks this year is if they gamble on being able to trade-in a first round pick next year (or year after) and then use it in the draft that year so, scenarios of getting 2 first round picks for hogan this year directly from either freo or wc are pretty slim. 2 first round picks could only be managed by involving a more complicated deal with one or more other clubs involved

you're right jesse, got caught in a moment of weakness.

there is nothing contradictory about being performance enhancing and having other desirable medical benefits. why is that such a hard concept to understand? there is also a documented procedure in wada whereby in certain cases and for certain drugs under certain strict conditions, permission can be given to use banned drugs for medical purposes.

you don't give up do you? i didn't realise you were a pharmacologist. it's on the wada banned list as a specific product as a performance enhancing substance, not on the s0 generic category. i know whose expertise i would consider most credible

talking of langford, what happened to him? was playing some great games last year then has seemed to disappear

it's not a question of "out thinking" it's a question of which way the cards are stacked and which side has the better strategic position. if it is given he wants out for compassionate reason and this leaves us with a max of 2 possible clubs to negotiate with then we are not coming from a very strong position and have fewer options than if it was a normal open market stuation. i don't like our position if he decides to leave for compassionate reasons......ymmv