steve, I understand your point. There was manipulation and betrayal. We accept that but you are taking excuses to an extreme
Let me just say this. There were a large number of players, from rookies like hunter to experienced leaders like jobe. There were 34 players (and if you believe hird maybe more). Of all this number, not one did an independent check nor raised the matter with anyone outside the clique. Not one consulted with the long standing and respected club doctor, reid. Not one player disclosed the injections (and other stuff) on the asada drug testing forms.
Now i can accept some being duped or careless or too trustworthy, but all 34 and on numerous occasions, despite all the wada education they were given? That scale of omission is just not acceptable and cannot be simply brushed aside with your arguments