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Ahead of last year for the first time.
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16 hours ago, picket fence said:
I like the positivity!
I wish my teachers wrote a report like Taylor Whitford did for KFW .....1 mark 1 disposal!!,
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13 hours ago, Binmans PA said:
I hate it. But the Blues song does sound like a very, very dull children's song.
....and the original is rather racist.
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Just now, leave it to deever said:
Didn't Binners call for the rule that even if the ball brushes the post on the way through it's still a goal.
It would save a lot of time.
Yes...one has to think common sense, but no this is the AFL. And since every goal is reviewed before the next bounce, why do a review on the spot and waste time?
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22 minutes ago, sue said:
Typical of the AFL. The goal umpires 'frustrated' by being mocked for the tsunami of reviews, had to lean on the AFL to admit it was an AFL policy. Why couldn't they announce that upfront.
Spot on.
And if goal umpires have to call for a review if the ball goes near the posts or over the line, then why have goal umpires at all?
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The Age also did graphics ( which I can't reproduce here) which just shows how far down the gurgler we are compared to other clubs and the years of inaction by the current Board.
Marvel Stadium: State Government $225M
GMHBA Stadium (Geel) : State Government $142M
IKON park (Carlton): State Government $20.196 M Federal Government $15M
AIA centre ( Collingwood): Federal Government $15M
Whitten Oval ( WB): State Government $36.6M ( plus land donation, not covered in this article)Federal Government $15M
Casey Fields: State Government $5M
Moorabbin Oval ( StK): State Government $13M (stage 2 only). Stage 1+2 $30M
Mars stadium (WB):State Government $6.6M ( stage 2 only)
Arden St (Nth ): State Government $7M (stage 2 only)
The Hanger (Ess): State Government $6.3M Federal Government $4M ( upgrade only)
Victoria Park (Coll) :State Government $2M
Commitments:
Dingley (Haw): State $15M Fed $15M
Punt Road(Rich): State $15M Fed $15M
And these numbers are from 2017 only!!!
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9 hours ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:
They had teams throw 3 first rounders at them for pick 1 and they knocked it back.
Spot on......This is how you rebuild, not chasing a single player.
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Just get a plastic ticket..
1. Don’t have to deal with Ticketek. Either this round or all of the remaining games. They WILL stuff up again.
2. Readers, apps, and phones are all dependent upon the electronics working. We all know they WILL fail at some point.
3. Stop giving information to the AFL, Ticketek, or some bot ex China about where you are and whether you are going.
4. Much easier to burn the plastic card than your phone…and cheaper, when you get fed up with team performance.
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Aren’t they only available 72 hours before game.?
Always problematic, just get a plastic card instead. Always works.
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33 minutes ago, Katrina Dee Fan said:
Wrong, Leighoak and Bentleigh Club were both purchased by the club long before Gutnick became involved in the club. Leighoak was purchased in 1994, renovated and opened by the club in 1995. Bentleigh Club was purchased beginning of 1996. Gutnick became involved after the failed merger at the end of 1996.
Bentleigh club opened 1997 after Joe became president in 1996.
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20 hours ago, jnrmac said:
George
What I saw in Sydney was the few times we tried to switch we then stopped thus allowing Sydney to move across to cover us. If you switch it has to be done swiftly with the next two or three in the chain. At worst hopefully you get a stoppage on the wing or HFwd line. At best you can cut back into the middle to enter the F50.
We broke down because we were slow in moving it and/or honouring the lead up the ground. Sydney on the other hand kept the ball moving once they switched.
Players like Jordon for us were masters at holding up the chain. He nearly always stopped and propped So much so that it must be to instruction. 'Don't kick to a one on one, wait till the cavalry arrive'
I think that is part of Simon's defence first mantra but its worn thin and is now too predictable.
Switching has to have an end result. It used to because you could get an entry into the 50m arc rather than a kick down the line to contest. It simply doesn't happen against good teams any more.
Kicking across the ground to a contest on the opposite wing, which we saw in Sydney, is pointless. The result is the same as kicking down the line. It may move the zone on the MCG, but they don't have to run as far on the SCG.
The trend for the better teams is to switch left, then back again to move the zone. And then do it again....The two or three kicks needed to get it to the opposite side, as per the traditional switch, is simply too slow for the way the winning teams play. We did it to Sydney, they did it to us.
When watching the game, don't look at the ball when a team tries to switch. Look at the HBF for the opposition, and you will see if the switch is going anywhere long before the ball gets there, as the opposition will have it covered or not.
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Every other club in the league would want him.
I’m sure Bontempelli would be sought by everyone as well, but it ain’t going to happen.Best to stop reading when you see the authors name, and his employer.
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56 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:
And the few times we do switch from the full back line, the second and third overlap players aren’t there for it to succeed, instead the first receiver on half back stops and has to identify a target as the opposition floods back. We don’t seem to have a set play for it, where a number of players would know to just run to space as soon as they see the first move.
But that is what Sydney and other good teams do. They flood across the ground faster than the switch. The switch was effective 5 years ago. But the HBF’s and especially wingers have already blocked the path, before ANY team can kick the ball the 2 to 3 times to move it to the other side.
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They can't get the decisions on the field right, the job should be with an independant group off the field .
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3 hours ago, Wells 11 said:
same same...and he missed a chance to give the club a home.
He had already tipped a couple of Million for the club, which was broke. He got us the Bentleigh club and Leigoak which having been sold by the current administration are still are the only assets the club has after 160+ years.
To have tipped in further for the Olympic swimming pool site is a bit over the top as a further ask. And there wasn't an oval next to it until Eddie kicked out Athletics Vic.
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Finally some numbers posted.....48,037 as of today. Behind last years tally already
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2024
2023
2022
2021
2020
2019
2018
2017
2016
2015
2014
2013
2012
2011
1st game
07/03 A
18/3 H
16/3 H
20/3 H
22/3 A
23/3 H
25/3 H
25/3 A
25/3 H
4/4 H
22/3 A
31/3 H
31/3 H
27/3 H
Oct week 3
19,068 21
15,211 20
21,980 22
19,026 26
16,654 22
17,625 25
Nov week 3
30,000 26
20,215 21
25,028 22
26,064 18
23,037 26
20,509 26
20,223 25
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16,287
11,922
Dec week 1
28,005 7
30,096 7
28,354 07
27,914 9
24,402 4
22,433 3
22,105 11
18,217 3
18,747 2
17,541 3
Dec week 3
38,000 23
28,447 21
31,759 21
29,053 22
29,426 23
26,217 22
24,097 23
23,542 25
20,623
20,166
Jan week 3
40,000 21
29,764 21
33,226 21
30,068 19
30,200 20
27,027 19
25,112 23
24,558 21
21,873
22,402
22,396
Feb week 1
40,823 7
30,141 7
34,327 7
30,577 2
31,141 3
28,013 3
25,647 1
25,416 4
22,962 8
23,422
23,457
Feb week 2
44,552 19
41,562 14
32,157 14
35,148 14
31,310 14
31,537 10
28,759 17
26,290 12
26,039 12
23,650 12
21,448 12
Feb week 3
42,463 21
32,954 21
32,735 21
36,070 21
32,075 21
32,137 17
29,217 24
26,639 18
26,641 17
23,650 18
24,195 16
25,253 17
Feb week 4
49,850 28
44.526 28
33,458 28
32,985 28
36,973 28
32,948 28
32,679 24
29,450 26
27,066 26
27,736 26
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25,277
Mar week 1
50,054 7
44,903 7
35,874 7
35,726 7
37,979 7
34,034 7
33,520 3
30,524 7
27,619 4
28,582 4
24,801 5
26,023
27,806
Mar week 2
48,880 14
52,738 14
49,667 14
37,083 14
36,063 14
39,537 14
34,691 14
35,080 16
32,623 16
29,510 16
30,421 15
26,751 14
26,791 14
28,068
Mar week 3
54,028
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55,528 21
51,513 21
41,055 21
37,571 21
41,513 21
36,513 21
35,756 21
33,146 21
30,257 21
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Mar week 4
54,981. 28
56,572 28
54,164 28
41,325 28
37,888 28
44,008 28
38,089 28
37,025 28
35,117 26
31,035 26
32,324 28
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29,588
31,087
Apr week 1
55,258 7
57,558 7
55,595 7
42,088 7
38,115 7
45,537 7
39,402 7
38,554 7
35,535 1
32,001 1
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32,235
33,359
Apr week 2
57,002 14
58,385 14
56,841 14
43,421 14
38,246 14
46,133 14
40,160 14
39,005 14
36,157 8
33,301 9
33,175 14
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33,753 10
Apr week 3
58,651 21
59,220 21
57,289 21
44,934 21
38,286 21
47,174 21
40,557 21
39,281 21
36,731 20
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34,548 20
Apr week 4
59,894
59,545 28
57,802 28
46,093 28
38,431 28
48,080 28
40,636 28
39,634 28
37,597 30
34,068 29
May week 1
60,673 7
59,144 7
46,896 7
38,521 7
49,837 7
41,640 7
40,083 7
37,766 6
34,352 7
35,205 5
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34,489
35,205
May week 2
61,324 14
60,000 14
46,896 14
38,591 14
50,107 14
41,825 14
40,380 14
38,102 13
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34,961
May week 3
63,750 21
60,303 21
48,784 21
38,673 21
50,422 21
42,057 21
40,549 21
38,327 23
34,871 20
May week 4
63,869 28
60,782 28
48,784 28
38,673 28
50,520 28
42,352 28
40,749 28
38,479 31
35,017 22
June week 1
64,135 7
61,652 7
50,085 7
38,766 7
51,770 7
43,593 7
40,934 7
38,547 6
Jun Week 2
64,492 14
62,095 14
50,085 14
38,985 14
51,770 14
43,791 14
41,022 14
38,653 14
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35,403
Jun week 3
64,751 21
62,646 21
Jun week 4
64,929 28
62,738 28
July week 1
64,976 7
65,472 7
July week 2
67,122 14
65,756 14
July week 3
67,177 21
65,816 21
Final July 31
67,673
65,902
53,188
39,774
52,405
44,191
42,102
39,211
35,953
35,911
33,177
35,345
36,937
Post 31 July
70,785
66,484
54,495
40,531
52,446
45,178
42,233
2024 Progressive total in Red
Actual dates in Blue
Date of first game of season Home or Away
SOME NUMBERS FROM LONG AGO:
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45 minutes ago, Demonsone said:
After finishing top 4 last 3 yrs and winning a flag why hasn’t the club been able to trade or getting a free agent power forward, our hybrid solution of turning defenders into forwards is coming to roost!
Because there were none available come free agent trading period.
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33 minutes ago, Sydee said:
Well to switch play effectively you need a couple of things
First is players who have good field kicking - we are terribly light on in this area
Second is players who are prepared to work hard to run to space even if they aren’t used - I lost count in the game against the Swans the number of times we had possession in the D50 only for our guys to look upfield and see zero movement - it really was quite amazing
I saw GWS last night and they work extremely hard to spread and create options and their skills in terms of kicking and handball to advantage seem way better than ours at least at this stage
The other thing needed to switch effectively is space. That doesn’t exist on the SCG. While there were kicks for both sides which were “not down the line” the switch becomes ineffective, since the opposition don’t have to run as far to fill the defensive space, unlike the MCG.
The GWS comparison is very valid, since it was played on a bigger ground, and the game becomes more open.
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How hard is it to put the numbers up?
Our ever reliable comms. team still has last years figures on the website.
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On 29/02/2024 at 01:09, pingu said:
Are there any food outlets or toilet facilities at Gosch’s? Want to take the little guy to training and I just know he’ll want food and definitely need the bathroom. Also are some of the players available for a happy snap and autograph?
There is a pop us food place right next to the entrance to Richmond station on Swan street.
There is a toilet ( one of the old cast iron versions from the 1800's) at the NW corner of the playing fields, right on Swan st.
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1 hour ago, leave it to deever said:
You really turned me on the bump issue.
I guess footy for me has always had an element of blood lust about it.
I started following in the dirty days of the 70s so I've seen a bit of biffo.
But lately and hopefully older and wiser.... ( my young 19 yo son plays basketball) ..I would hate to see him in trouble.
And since it's not my head on the "chopping block" who am I to expect others to do so.
But when you call it out for what it is as brain trauma it really makes you think.
A dear family friend of ours in her early 20s who played aflw with a history of concussions can now no longer play. She has been devastated by this loss of livelihood and passion.
Will we miss the bump. Maybe . But footy will survive and will still be a wonderful sport to watch.
Well called.
Good points Deever.....what we are used to doing and seeing is no longer acceptable, as we now know the damage concussions cause.
I was chatting to a fellow Demon supporter who was also a boxing coach. I am no fan of that sport, but he pointed out the disparity of rules in boxing around KO/concussion, and that of the AFL.
KO with loss of consciousness for less than 1 minute = 90 days no sparring or fighting
More than 1 minute = 180 days
2nd loss of consciousness after return from previous = 360 days
1 KO no loss of consciousness= 30 days
2 KO no loss of consciousness = 90 days
3 KO no loss of consciousness = 360 days
For such a brutal "sport" they actually take proscribe more care than the AFL with its lousy 12 day respite.
We may not like it, because players won't be allowed to play, but better that than more Brayshaw, Barnes, Smith, Frawley situations....
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47 minutes ago, Roost it far said:
C’mon, it’s not like the players carry the equipment. Our situation is fine.
And they have to share rooms, ice baths, physio facilities, gym equipment, team meeting rooms with Storm, Victory and Rebels. And how do you think our Womens team fits into that arrangement?
You only have to go to Essendon to see what a proper facility is. Even Collingwoods is not the best today but they are ligh years above what we have.
But do not say our situation is fine until you have seen what other have.
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On 24/02/2024 at 11:32, Lucifers Hero said:
. Nonetheless, it is nice to know that I am missed a l little.
No @Lucifers Hero you are missed a lot!
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Training Ground?
in Melbourne Demons
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Quite easy to understand.
As highlighted in his message, we will not be playing games at Caulfield. So for the VFL, AFLW, VFLW sides we will still need a ground to play on = Casey.