darkhorse72

A good article and interesting to see what fixture requests we have put in.

I just have to add to the demographics comment.

Being a "lower" working class supporter base Collingwood supporter families will have more kids than "Upper" class Melbourne supporting families.

For example:

Collingwood family 70's - 6 kids

Melbourne 70- 2.5 (avg)

80's

Collingwood girls get pregnant in middle teens - 80s - (*avg down to 4) 24 kids

Melbourne educated kids Study and go to Uni - 80's NO kids

90'

Collingwood supporters, things are a bit better for them, some finish high school so the kids don't start popping out until the late 90's/ early 2000 -

Still have 4 kids though - 96 kids

Melbourne supporters start to ge married etc: (avg 3 kids, as Costello said, 1 for one for mum one for dad and one for the country) 7.5 kids

So really in a generation and a bit the respective support bases could be, by now:

Collingwood: adults: 32

Kids: 96

Melbourne: Adults: 4

Kids: 7

The basis for this scientific calculation is the movie "Idiocracy" about the decline of the human race. Given the nature of collingwood supporters their will be little loss of kids supporting a different side. This high scientific formula can be applied to all other clubs except maybe Carlton

So in reality the MFC should provide financial support for us great supporters to have more kids for their future.

But Seriously:

Basically melbourne has a lot of supporters the problem is very few of them are active supporters/members. You can see this when the team is travelling well and in the finals as you look at the crowd makeup's from the finals Melbourne have played in since 87' there is a lot of red and blue there. And I remember when we played in the 2000 GF, there were complaints for the first time by MCC members not being able to get their GF ticket easily.

If jimmy can keep up his good work (Which we all hope to god he can) he will eventually get those supporters back to the club and combine this with our rise up the ladder starting next year we'll only get stronger. The club that will struggle is North, as it has no latent supporter base to build on despite its success. While Hawthorn had the same problem in the 90's it was able to engage with them as we are doing now. As for them picking up 12k GF members wouldn't we love them too.

The golden period was when the club had a few strong leaders at the top, Norm Smith and our Secretary Jim, while Jim was not a president etc, he was more influential than the committee during his tenure in bringing success to the club. While I don't expect another golden era and time os sustained success with only a short downtimes is something we are building to.

Thats why the GC were given so many 1st round picks.

true

But such an experience isn't unigue to a soccer match, same as going to a concert, but others have said there is always something happening in AFL.

Also the chanting/signing is a string part of English culture, even in pubs etc. Doesn't happen here which is a pity.

They chant because their games are slow with lots of boring time to fill in. As you gather I'm not a fan of soccer but I watched the last world cup (Which most Aussies did as its a sporting spectacle) , and you get about 5 minutes of excitement in a full match, broken into maybe 30second lots. I'm surprised there aren't more beach balls at their games as well.

As for naming rights, its up to us to market ourselves and be damed what other clubs do.

Most likely the debt was around 1.2m in August and then you add interest Raising up slightly again.

If you think at the rate that the debt is being reduced their isn't much more that the club can do without straining its relationships with its members and supporters.

Think of it this way, if you had a $500,000 mortgage on your house and it two years you had it down to $120,000 wouldn't you be stoked!

I know I would be.

Remember each year the interest competent is less so the principle is reduced faster therefore raising say another $800k next year will have more impact on the debt.

Personally I think the club will able to wipe the debt next year even if they draw money out of the normal operations of the club. Also maybe come to an arrangement with the financiers of getting a discount by repaying it early/now. I remember Geelong getting a million and a bit off heir stand debt by cook arranging to pay the debt in full earlier a few years ago.

The reasons for leaving was to the benefit of the football club ands attempt to become more professional, RDB was a huge factor behind the push when he returned to coach. The issue was how the split was done, in speaking with Cameron earlier this year about it, he thought the MFC should have been given a percentage of the wealth it help build when it left, instead it was sent away with nothing and had to start from scratch.

Also the footy club was sending the MCC broke buying expensive duds through the 70's...

Mine never make it to the car, my oldest daughter incorporates them into her drawings and paintings instead.

Hey all!

According to the news last night, Allen Jakovich will line up in the second Chris Mainwaring tribute match and play on his Brother .

WA only with no television I imagine. Thinking of going except the rest will be all old shockers and weagles who I despise!

He would be a good pickup if he had a great work ethic and helps build a strong defensive culture in the team. At 28 he has a lot of years left in him as a backman and could be a good role model for our developing defending. Hopefully whne he retires we'll be left with 6+ top line defenders who have learnt from one of the best available at this time. Being a backman I think you'll get at least 4/5 years out of his body assuming there is nothing already breaking down.

The salary cap is not an issue as we are front loading our contracts so we can meet the 92.5% requirement so we have lots of room.

god accounting takes time, as it would be embarrassing to over estimate and the revise it down, plus we have to wait for the cheques to clear and that seems to take forever whenever I get one

Simple solution is to make the Dee's part of the additional blockbuster games as the MCG is our home. More members and hard at it team on the field winning games and therefore bigger crowds. Look at Queens birthday when we play crap, also look at some of our other big games when we were running hot against the tigers. cats, blues and bombers for example. Teams people like to see play. The AFl obvious know they'll never get a blockbuster against an interstate side at the MCG, I think the closet they got were the eagles/bombers in the 90's with sheedy's jacket waving.

That right the dockers may become a successful team, their recruiting manager who has been with since creation has resigned.

Its amazing that given they have had 12 bad years out of 14, you think they would have sent him packing earlier

Hi All

On the WA 7 news last night the CEO of the dockers indicated they were interested in getting Scott West as a assistant.

They think they can do it as Harvey is good friend with him.

besides it's against the rules of the AFL..we'd get fined more than we won

it has some good bits in it, but as stated it could have been so much better given its title! I guess the problem is who they commissioned to make it.

pity

HI All

Just thinking about the draft and is this possible. Since the debate is now who to take with our second pic,k can this be done.

We choose our 3 top preferred players, X Y Z.

We speak to them all and indicate we want to draft them, X Y and nominate for the national draft and where we take them 1 and 2.

Can we ask player Z to wait and only nominate for the preseason draft where we also have pick 1?

I assume their is some AFL law against this, is that the case?

basically we pick the best players we can with our picks. If a player is one of the "best" available he'll be talented enough to play in more than one position.

AS for a ruck, we just need one that breaks even over a match and we'll be right, most ruckmen dont start to get goo till their mid twenties when their bodies finish growing and the brains catch up with their hands and feet

I don't know a "tank" would need great. I remember that goodies episode of the soccer "friendly" at Christmas between the germans and British and the Germans enlisted a Tiger tank as their goalie. If you saw the episode the Tiger didn't do that well, but it wasn't the tanks fault, wrong sport, soccer is non contact. Now the Australian army are about to sell off, 100 odd leopard tanks, fast and agile, the modern athelete. They have three crew so it would count as 3 players, but I think thats a fair balance. A few bumps from it and it'll dominate the field We just has to remember not to run over the ball or an umpire, as without a ball we can't score goals. And if they touch an umpire it'll get suspended. But then if we bought all 100 odd we'd be right, we'll just play his brother the following week.....

Players dont have to go, though its become less common. We actually drafted Darren Jarmen and he just never turned up and after our "contract" expired with him he re-nominated and went Hawthorn. And I remember the big mummy's boy Anthony Rocca not wanting to go to Sydney. His momma, saying he should stay his Melbourne with his family lol... I don't think he ever recovered from that I think he went up and played half a season over 2 years, after staying in Melbourne for the first year.

But who would recruit and interstate kids who says he'll go home after his initial contract.

Damn you beat me too it!

I'll raise you to Super Crap...

He resigned before the review, told he most likely wont have his contract renewed. So not a sacking per se.

He resigned before the review, told he most likely wont have his contract renewed. So not a sacking per se.

Great article and hopefully the young man is turning his life around and it will show in the field. As I've always said he has the talent now he is maturing and he should now start to bloom