Go the Biff

Can't agree on these points Titan:

PJ is a beautiful kick

Problem is PJ is a poor mark

Lets see if he has improved this year

I think Ravi has got to the guts of the PJ question. For a bloke his size, with his athleticism, speed & skills to be a hopeless mark above his eyes - it's like God made the perfect modern day ruckman & at the last moment decided to take the [censored]. I think Rhino refers to him as a 200cm winger & he's not far off the mark.

Johnson has a lot that's good but when it comes to catching the ball - I'd prefer we had Sharelle McMahon out there.

On the bright side, the team is kicking the ball a bit better this season so maybe he'll get more opportunities - chest high, lace out. Anything else & Sharelle's the better man.

Gray has been around for like 4 years and you have only "seen his highglights" ... hahahaha.

He played against us twice last year you numpty.

Seriously you are incredible. Thats gold!!!!

Totally over the top response. What were you thinking ? Give yourself an uppercut

Good to hear, although very much discarded by the supporters here, he played some great games before becoming injured last year.

No he didn't. Not even by our shite standards of 2009 could you have called any of his games great. A couple were serviceable at best. It's got me stuffed how this myth started.

Her gender is not an issue. Her voice is. Bloody horrible. It's like listening to Kelvin Cunnington calling the footy without the giggling.

Can't stand her on the netball either

I'm bumping this again.

Yes, to stroke my own ego, but also to point out how quickly things change.

But mainly ego.

Fair bump rpfc - the Geelong comparison you made is interesting in the light of a couple of articles in last weekends papers.

5 more wins & that poor bugger gets to step off the train from Greensborough & drop his tweeds. That'll be a longer walk than any of Michael Long's.

Yeah noticed this on TV. Wonder what that was all about?

Petterd was suggesting that Sylvia should have handballed to him in the play just prior to the siren. I think Col was explaining why he didn't. Both had a reasonable case to argue.

Thanks for reminding me to put the Journo in I forgot that, ooops. Jake Niall.

Niall was on SEN earlier this arvo pumping us up even more. He made the point that Bailey had been prepared to make tough calls from day 1, using the TJ trade as an example.

He was very enthusiastic about MFC - you'd almost think he was on our staff.

Pretty sure the same bloke's given us a couple of whacks in the recent past

If he is going to play the twilight of his career for melbourne that is where he will end up. He is a good kick.

i don't think we require him further up the ground.

I think you're making stuff up. His kicking has been ordinary for a couple of years now. Ask any Crows fan.

While he's been a damn good player, I don't want him back. It's poor form to me that a player would do his development at one club, give his prime years to another & then return to the original club to play for his superannuation.

Could be a good Teacher for Jack Watts-another good solid body in the goal square.

One of the more puzzling statements I've read on here. Please illuminate further.

The Scott Thompson I've been watching these past years would struggle to have visited the goal square.

The streaming seems stinted. They used to do it quarter by quarter.worked fine.. now.. its to omuch and kills 'puters.

They obvious ly never heard of 'it aint broke dont fix it !!'

Not having Foxtel, I've used the BigPond replay site a fair bit over the past few years & it's been great. Particularly after enduring weeks of floggings it's been good to be able to go back & find a game where we either won or played well. I'm also ADSL2+ and while you'd get the occasional buffering issue, this weeks replay has been ridiculous. Hit the feedback button people & tell them it's stuffed - it usually gets fixed.

The Crows game had the first quarter loaded four times rather than the whole match. They fixed that. Shouldn't happen though - someone has dropped the ball in there this year

Rotten call and a rotten team. Richmond would wipe the floor with that team.

Read it properly you two. It's his best 22 Queenslanders currently in the AFL. There ain't that many of them so Miller gets a run. As does Beams' brother

After getting home from Saturday's game I viewed every article I could find online. I looked at every highlight available & trawled our websites lapping up the enthusiasm of our supporters. Even went to BigFooty & enjoyed the favourable comments from the challenged multitudes over there.

It is so bloody nice to feel good about the footy again after enduring the last few years.

It is so good to feel that Melbourne is getting some respect back. For the last 18 months I've had to rely on Big Jimmy & Martin Flanagan to remind me how great this club is.

Mind you, the last few years have been a walk in the park compared to shite that was the 70's.

The fire has certainly started & while it is still very early days, I'm looking forward to watching the flame get fanned

I don't think Warnock got a real go from Danner's it wasn't until Bailey played Warnock, Garland togther consistently that we really started to see something.

I don't think Warnock deserved an opportunity under Daniher. He was largely tripe at Sandy & showed nothing, nothing to suggest he would be an AFL level player let alone a KPP. I admit I was keen to see him cut three years ago. Very happy to be proved wrong & hope he continues to prove me wrong for a good few years.

You mean the team? You're crazy. I think you got it the wrong way round anyway as your four 'Ins' played against Adelaide. Which would then read:

And if you're talking about something else which I can't see what it is (obviously), then sorry :D

Reckon you might want to read the thread title ( & subtitle)

Are you sure Petterd wasn't standing on the half forward flank jnrm??????

Petterd was between forward flank & forward pocket when Bate grabbed the ball - he kept running to the square after Bate kicked it towards Dunn. But Bate should have spotted Ricky though & passed to him.

Thought Bate was ok on Saturday - maybe drifted out in & out a bit.

Watched the replay & thought Bate was a fair bit better than ok. Very important lead up target, especially in the first quarter when we were trying to get some reward for effort on the scoreboard.

Wouldn't contemplate dropping him.

It's not just us Demons who think we were bent over without the benefit of lubricant. There is a 13 page thread on Bigfooty decrying the maggot's performance. Most of it from non- Melbourne fans.

He's not a full forward. Never will be. To play him there would be having him playing away from his strengths - one out, in space. He has the potential to be one of those nasty half-forwards that are too good in the air for most small defenders & too quick for most tall defenders. Like most half forwards he's likely to get bags one week & nothing the next.

Terrific game today, you could see how much that hurt, narrowly missing that mark on the siren. Sign him up before the GC get into his ear.

A natural full forward though, would have been leading towards the oncoming Bail & taken an uncontested mark & kicked from 20m out.

Greg Parke

May 'Ball' = 'Turley'?

Not a great analogy Bazz & way too much info in your previous post !

I'm thinking we'll likely get a $500K Chris Heffernan. Won't be happy if we use either of 11 or 18 on him. Not for a player that the 'Pies thought worth no more than pick 30 & a fringe player.

Furious_d makes some valid points about Ball's value from a leadership & age-group perspective but I don't see he, Moloney & Jones (let alone Junior) in the same team. Same problem we were facing when Brock buggered off.

Hope it's a bluff. Even more, I hope it works.

Just wondering if anyone knows how long hes got on hes contract and if anyone thinks hes worth a punt?

I'm pretty sure the Tigers re-signed him on a two year deal a couple of weeks ago

The way Ox was speaking it sounded like it came from a club source. I won't paraphrase the wording because it won't be accurate but he wasn't stating it as his opinion.

I can get pretty close to his response to Leach & Robinson :

"Just a rumour. We've touched base with the club & they say they're very close to signing a three year deal"

I guess your level of comfort can be measured against the level of cred you give The Ox. I rate him ahead of that no-name Ch9 bloke but like everyone else, will have to wait this one out.

I'm a fair bit older than you but I'll play. It's a welcome diversion from ludicrous trade proposals.

B Laurie Fowler, Ray Biffin, Alan Johnson

HB Brett Lovett, Gary Hardeman, Adem Yze

C Robbie Flower, Greg Wells, Stephen Tingay

HF Garry Lyon, David Schwarz, Ross Brewer

F Jeff Farmer, Allen Jakovich, Gerard Healy

R Jim Stynes, Todd Viney, Greg Healy

Int Earl Spalding, Brian Wilson, David Neitz, Peter Moore

Emer Stan Alves, Warren Dean, Brad Green

Hopefully in five years time, I'll be able to tip out some of these & replace them with premiership players. Not thrilled with having to name Brewer given the lazy bugger [censored] off to the 'Pies but he was a genuine HFF and a bloody good one when he got off his arse. 3 time leading goalkicker albeit with meagre totals. Coodabeen.

Rogue answered that when he correctly stated that he wouldn't have got the job in the first place if that was the direction he was advocating during the interview process.

Fair enough. That's what I get for skimming through at lunch time !

To clarify, I'm certainly not out for DB's blood - I just don't think he deserves a heap of credit for 'playing the kids' since he had no other option.

Not necessarily. He could have gone down the Pagan at Carlton path & recycled some established players to bolster his list. That, in my view set Carlton back as much as their salary cap penalties.

Trading TJ for a draft pick was gutsy. It's one thing to have a plan but it takes balls to stick with it.

Agree with those lauding the skills of Matthews. Over time, his tough-guy rep has probably detracted from his footy rep but for those who never saw him, be in no doubt. He was a freak. His ability to hit a leading player lace out on the [censored] is the best I've seen. He could kick bullets over 40 metres that never got more than 4 feet off the ground. Freak

When I had my first look at the 'poll' results yesterday, I was very surprised to read the words 'You have already voted in this poll'. This was news to me and I assure you I hadn't. More tricks by YM?

You weren't on the [censored] with Hannabal were you ?