Everything posted by Its Time for Another
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - HARLEY BENNELL
I wonder about this. Surely this would be a medical expert's opinion on calfs not a fitness and conditioning trainer like Burgess. I would guess medico's give opinion on whether there's medical potential to recover and set medical boundaries and then Brugess creates a training regime with the Doc's and physio's advice and what he can and can't do medically.
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Sam Murray
For those crying about Frosts departure, he looks like he would provide safer heart in mouth bursts from the back line but with a better footy brain judging by the fact that he at leasts knows to punch the ball towards the boundary not into the oppositions arms in front of goal. Agree he seems to have had a very harsh knock on his kicking. Swans were desperate to keep him. Won't cost a pick and won't cost much $ and brings much needed pace. Give him a one year contract. Another minimum cost risk with potentially strong upside. Bring it on.
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - HARLEY BENNELL
Agree with above. No matter what the outcome it's a really great opportunity to firstly test our culture and leadership to take a player with his history and make him prosper. Like what TIgers achieved with Dusty. Secondly a great opportunity for our revamped medico's and Burg's to weave some magic. If they pull that off not only will we get Bennell we might attract other players going forward like Hawks medico's have.
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - HARLEY BENNELL
I had a calf issue caused by a nerve issue. In my case the nerve issue makes the calf muscle spasm and tighten right up. When you exercise a muscle in that state it’s almost inevitable that it will eventually tear. Mine flared up riding but when I stopped it settled down after each ride. If his was anything like that it would explain it.
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - HARLEY BENNELL
Senior list min 38 to max 40. A Rookies min 4 with list of 40 to max 6 with list of 38. Up to 3 Cat B Rookies separate to this. We currently have 35 on list and have to draft 3 which at this stage includes 97 which is unlikely to be used other than on a rookie upgrade. If that was all that happened we'd have a list at the min 38 and 3 rookies left so would have to take 3 more. Put one place aside for Bennell and we'd take 2 in the rookie draft. Alternatively if we took a DFA like Murray and we kept a rookie place for Bennell we'd only pick 1 in the rookie draft. When you take that into account it makes it even less of a downside if Bennell doesn't work as he'd take the place of a 2nd or 3rd pick in the rookie draft. Don't know what the stat's on players taken there being successful would be but I'd be surprised if it was very many.
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - HARLEY BENNELL
I'm all for this. Very low risk if it doesn't work out. High reward if it does. To put the risk factor into perspective how many players have come back from not playing for 4 years? I can only think of Daniel Menzel who was great for a couple of years and then faded out. Although to be fair Bennell played 4 WAFL games this year and 6 last year so got through rehab both seasons to start playing.
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - HARLEY BENNELL
Agree. But it's virtually zero cost other than a few thousand bucks for him to train with us over the summer. If he breaks down at any stage that's it. If he gets through the summer we'll have a good idea on whether to gamble on minimum wages for 2020. The loss if it fails is minute. And lets face it based on the past 4 years don't hold your breath. But if it works. Oo La La!! And either way it's worth it just for a few weeks of excitement at a dead time of the year.
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - HARLEY BENNELL
True but if his asking price of $700k+ is true he hasn't justified that in his performances to date. He and Bennell fully fit and firing would make a significant difference to our skill levels.
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - HARLEY BENNELL
The Club has made a priority of improving the medical and conditioning departments. This play will be a great test if we've got it right or not. Hawks medicos have successfully delivered them Burgoyne, Scully, O'Meara, Patton and on their own have made them a destination Club. Let's hope that's what's about to happen to us.
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - HARLEY BENNELL
I had the same thought. How sweet would it be to pick Harley up as a DFA and Martin in the other draft but he'd have to get a reality check on his asking price.
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The List: Post 2019 Trade Period
So 5 potential spots on the list gives us a bit of an idea of the parameters of what might happen over the next couple of weeks. From what I'm reading some think Young is close to Anderson standard with an elite kick which is exactly what we need. I doubt we'd split 3 and give him up. None of the rest sound like they are close to that standard. I think it's more likely we'll split 8. Pick trading is live now until 22 Nov and then on draft nights. So guessing we'll end up with 3 picks in the draft with one of the existing picks and one turned into 2. All players left on the list are contracted so more delistings will happen. It's still been 9 list changes which is a lot really including 5 from the primary list with 2 replacements. If we take 3 in the draft it leaves the list at 38 so I'm guessing there will be at least one DFA (I'm guessing Murray for pace. Swans rated him very highly but some say he's a terrible kick. I don't know.) and possibly one rookie upgrade as we have 4 rookies now and 1 Cat B with Bradtke.
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Hayden Young (Drafted by Fremantle)
Good to read a comparison with Anderson who I’m so upset at missing. Especially as all the talk is that this draft drops off a cliff after Anderson. Anyone else got a view about the two of them.
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Caleb Serong (Drafted by Fremantle)
No wonder. I went back to find it for you. It’s at 48sec. Only problem, on closer inspection it’s actually Weightman not Young. Still a very good kick though. My 2 cents worth is the kicking skills of the top 4 in the finals was a clear significant point of difference. And we don’t have it. Young brings it Serong doesn’t.
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Caleb Serong (Drafted by Fremantle)
The player I noticed in these highlights wasn't Serong it was the things Young did. How was that kick threading the needle to a leading forward inside 50. Just what we are crying out for. Just because he played half back as a junior doesn't mean that's where his AFL career will be. Hogan was the AA U 18 CHB. T Mac was a forward as a junior and recruited as a back. J Howe was recruited by Pies as a forward and we know how that ended.
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Cody Weightman (Drafted by Western Bulldogs)
I deleted the contents of this post but can't delete the post. Please ignore.
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Zak Jones
I forced myself to watch some Freo games this year just to watch him because I had the feeling we were going to get him after trying last year. I hadn’t seen much of him before that either. I didn’t see the poor disposal many talk about. He didn’t dominate any of the games I saw but he’s a great runner and a good competitor. Bit as the seasons gone on he’s got better and better. As you say time will tell.
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Zak Jones
Ernest have a look at the trajectory of Langdons’s performances over his career. It keeps going up. His stats overall virtually match Brad Hill’s some are better. His disposal is not as good but had been continually improving. His last month was well beyond Hill and up with Gaff quality. By the end of next season he will be looking like the steal of this trade period and will make a big difference to our ball movement and defensive transition. Don’t be sad be happy.
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Farewell Sam Frost
Shish...we all see what we want to see. I see Frost for Langdon. With some minor drops in minor picks which with smart selections won't matter. How is that not a massive win. We lose a player in a position we have 5 players on the list for and pick up a player who has something we are desperate for. Pick 22 downgrade to 26 this year in a dud draft where we might have our eyes on a player at 22 who would still be there at 26 so no loss. Pick 42 to pick 50 in a dud draft. A pick is only worth what player you get with it. These picks will be a lottery anyway. We might end up with a better player at 50 than 42. I'm not concerned with this one. Next years second rounders. We give up ours for Langdon and get back Hawks which should be a higher pick than ours next year. Win, win and win. That's what I see
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Farewell Sam Frost
Genuine question. Not argument. Why?
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Sam Murray
Good theory depending on how highly you rate him and whether you are prepared to take the risk that another club will take him before then. The Swans regarded him very highly and really liked what they saw in the two years he was rookie listed there even though he hadn't played a game yet. They were very unhappy when he left. He had a very good start at the Pies. Has elite speed is a good size but kicking is not elite. Plenty to work with and he could release Salem up the field to be the weapon we so desperately need for delivering the ball inside 50.
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Sam Murray
Delisted free agency windows Friday November 1 - Monday November 11 Wednesday November 13 - 5pm Friday November 22
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WELCOME TO DEMONLAND - ED LANGDON
Apparently he still hasn't even told MFC he wants to come here. We've been talking to him for a year, trade weeks started and no decision on even coming over.
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Farewell Sam Frost
Will be an interesting negotiation with Hawthorn. We want your pick 30. What for a player you think so little of you didn’t even make him an offer. We reply he started at the $650k you’re offering him and wouldn’t budge that’s what he’s worth. Etc etc
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Welcome to Demonland - Alan Richardson
My guess is that statement was a mistake. There's three vacancies including replacing Jennings, Rawlings & Casey coach as the fill in for Rawlings has moved to a development role. There's a lot to cover and get right in these interviews and some info you must not want to disclose. For instance he paused and stumbled before he announced the offer to Elliot was 3 years. I would have thought it wouldn't be in our interests to let other clubs know what that offer is so they know what they have to beat to get him. He probably wishes he hadn''t said anything and didn't want to make that mistake again.
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Josh Mahoney in the Media
Hand this man the box of chocolates. Great point.