Howard_Grimes

Thank you for my essay feedback, Sir. Did I pass? But srsly, I disagree. I'm talking meaningful change. Kosi was always going to run through the middle at some stage for example. I don't count new draftees who come in to play as 'change'. That happens at every club. There was little meaningful list and positional change. The list needed to change quicker, bigger pieces needed to be moved. And especially so through the midfield and half forward. That didn't happen. I mentioned our forward 50 connection. You didn't mention that? How can that one thing not change over that amount of time? What do you put it down to and why? And for the tactical talk, we have long brought an extra up to stoppage leaving the opp with an extra in our forward line. That's what I meant. That continued long after 666. Even this year. And again, it took him a long time to change.

I'm not trying to follow you around and get in a [censored]-for-tat. But. I think the difference in thought from posters like Gonzo, others and myself and you and the pro Goody camp probably come down to gamestyle. And whilst I agree he made significant change to our ball movement strategy (which all coaches have to do at some stage given the evolution of the game), would it be fair to say that in areas like selection, positional change, gameday tactical moves, he did not change much? I think one of the biggest pieces of evidence that Goodwin didn't change in some of those areas I mentioned is our forward 50 entry. Now genuine change to that particular metric would have needed to come from more than just a change from ball movement from our backhalf. It would have required positional and personnel changes across the midfield and half-forward. And as we know, that never happened. He did not change in those areas enough. Not nearly aggressive or proactive enough at changing the look of our forward-line or midfield. And the consistent selection of underperfoming senior players over the years was further evidence of his reluctance to change. Gameday tactical change. Something we also rarely/if ever saw. And his record against tactically sound coaches is evidence of that. Whether it was sticking to his guns when opposition coaches knew to play a plus one behind the ball whilst Goody would keep the plus one around the ball, refusing to run with opposition players who ultimately had far too much influence on the game or dying moments of close games where his positional moves were too late. There's plenty there. And again, if posters put a share of the blame on the players for some of those points. I'd like to hit back and say that ultimately, Goody is still the one to decide whether or not those players should be getting games or not. ESPECIALLY the *connection' issue. If they're not getting it done, move them. He didn't. And here we are. We were banging our heads against the wall for years with the same issues. And that lies at the feet of Goodwin. Not enough change occurred, that was clear as day.

Thanks for your knowledge and investment Chocco! The dominoes begin..

We have some quality, but I agree that demonlanders underestimate the amount of talent that so many other clubs have. Which again, as I've said make this off-season absolutely enormous in regards to what we do with certain underperfoming senior players.

I respect the big fella big fella. But Buckley is the one.

We have some great young potential. Unfortunately so do more than a handful of other clubs and we need to add to this crop with another bumper draft hand or two over the next two years. Which makes this off-season the most fascinating yet.

Ahhh Adam my son. This always seems to happen. You take snippets of my posts, exaggerate to the shizen and form your own story, trying to hem me in. Get ready to read my words. I think some* senior players need to go. I think some* senior players need to stay. I think Buckley has more pull for some of the senior players that I think have great upside and that I'd like to stay at the club like Trac. I also think we'd be a more attractive potential home for players like Jackson if there is still a possibility of him leaving as well as others.. I think that this off-season will also be very important in securing picks for a player like Jackson if that is still on and/or having ammunition going into this year/next years draft which will also be super important for regenerating this list with high end talent. Please read and thank you.

Got to have it in some part of the club!

Yes, I'd say you are missing some* compelling reasons. The same compelling reasons that forced the club you so dearly love to get on the front foot, meet with him twice during the year and now have him as front runner to coach the club. Not sure, just throwing it out there.

Clearly you don't get it so let's leave it eh?

Haha, if you think we don't have a greater chance of keeping senior players that may be weighing up their options by naming someone like Buckley because of his standing in the game, the fact he made multiple finals appearances and was within an inch of a flag, ie (aura), then you well and truly do have your head in the sand.

The nuffs that are against Buckley cause he didn't deliver them a flag are unbearable.

And yet in 22' and 23' we finished top 4. So again, I'm not sure what exactly those last 5 matches are telling us from a 'what actually matters' perspective? Not a lot. But each to their own, I guess some people need to find the joy somewhere from this season.

I mean. What about the 5 games before that in isolation? And the 5 before that? Etc etc. And what about the overall picture?

Old enough.