Dees1911

Yes , very effective from 2018/2022 when territory was key, but sadly they have not adapted to current style where hitting targets with hand and foot is now big focus, we get burnt on turn over too often because of poor disposal from our midfielders.

Doesn't matter how many disposals you get when they are dump kicks or handballs to opposition !

Elite standards, but can't tackle, handball or kick !!

I keep hearing "when Oliver gets fit " He had his problems at the start of 24, we are now 1/2 way through 25, 18 months and 1 full pre-season and a professional footballer is still not up to elite football fitness ?? Time for Goodwin to harden up and make big call, otherwise the club should step in and make hard call on both.

Langdon did tag anderson and thought he done a good job. The incident when dropped his head, thought rivers should of been talking behind, but gave him crickets !!!

Correct !!! One thing you can say is that he has improved, might be minimal but can't say that about 90% of our list

Agree with oliver, but 9 out of 10 handballs go to opposition. 1.5 million for effort, we can get 15 aiden Johnston's for that

I disagree, probably didn't get to enough contests, but when he did, brought it to ground. And he actually leads at ball carrier, apart from melksham all others ran away from ball. Need to persist. See how he and JVR go next few weeks.

Taking the [censored] with oliver and petty !!!

Soccer ball out in rooms. We are done !!!

Petty's had all year ??

See Carlton had the soccer ball out before game last night, think that says it all !!!!

Fair, but a good starting point is not to change the things that are working !

A point shouldn't be classed as score involvement.

I would like to see a stat on 1st possession fumbles, fair chance we would be leading that stat.

You can't change method with current list. Not enough skill or good decision makers. Our best players are also our weakest link

2- 1st rounders for Petty. What would Adelaide be thinking ?? Goodwin has destroyed what could of been an All Australian key back

How about Goodwin / Oliver & petracca

If I here loading from Binman , I will spew my wheaties up !!!!

Forward entries have not changed for 5 years, yet same coaches and players are lauded cos we manage to win a couple of games here and there. Teams have worked out our midfield and target petracca and oliver when we don't have ball. For so long we have had players to cover them in defence, yet they are giving us next to nothing on offence, how about making them accountable both ways. Metres gained means nothing when the ball is going to opposition. For gods sake recruit a coach that can teach forwards. We are playing country footy in AFL. How this has gone on for so long is an inditement on Goodwin and club.

That could be our problem We need to practice everything Even the basics !!!

4 more points and max will have a goal

Need rain to bring teams back to our abbismall disposal

Give kossie oliver/petracca money. 3 million a year what a waiste.

What a rabble Oliver- any chance a handballs can go to a team mate. Petracca - hit a target 2 highest paid players are irrelevant