Deelectable

Thanks for the rebuke. This coming from someone who is praying for Jack Crisp to get injured in order not to break a record. Doesn't get much lower than that. If someone posted the same hoping a Melbourne player sustain an injury you'd be the first to be outraged. Disgusting.

You make some fair points. My argument is though that he earlier today asked us all not post 'unsubstantiated rumours' etc. This is 35 pages of them. Not one scrap of evidence that any of this is factual. Also, to refer to 9 News as 'actual news' is laughable. It stopped being news years ago. Nothing but editorialising no more so than in sports stories.

In true 'Demonland' speak "you don't have to read the threads that upset you".

'Demonland' is JD Vance using a pseudonym.

Thanks. Would never have occurred to me. Good to see you dodge references to the uncomfortable double standards you portray.👍

Why do you keep trotting out these lines " don't read if it upsets you or makes you uncomfortable "? At the same time you're posting edicts to all and sundry warning us not to post unsubstantiated rumours etc. Umm? This is the most unsubstantiated thread in Demonland history!!

Name calling again. Goodonya champ. He censors plenty here at whim, most of it fairly tepid. Double standards.

Doesn't need to publish anything particularly from these unreliable outlets. Name calling really becomes you.

Why do you keep fuelling the fire? Fox Footy and 9 News. [censored]! Zero credibility. You've taken time to post warning us about rumour an innuendo yet here you are making it even worse. Total hypocrisy. These videos are garbage. 2024 media is drivel. Yet you persist. Make up your mind. By posting this nonsense you're tacitly believing it to be true. Let it go. You have no evidence whatsoever other than these vacuous reports to suggest there is any cultural issues. Using the Demonland moniker to do so is greatly decreasing your role.

Understand why SEN dumped him and Mark Allen. Amateur hour.

'Has lost faith in the direction of the club'. Please tell me you're not referring to David Schwarz? Loved him as a player but as a pundit/ ex player he is clueless. I've lost track of the number of times he's made sweeping statements such a this with nothing to back it up. Non story.

Where did I say 'celebrating'? Awesome effort is an entirely different thing. Interesting also that clubs and players in particular can't win. If they play through injury the club is negligent. Conversely, if they don't get on the field they're accused of being weak and not toughing it out. Kane Cornes has potted Nick Cox and Todd Marshall for being soft and not cut out for the game. Lose, lose.

What an absolute load of twaddle.

Not uncomfortable at all mate. It's just absolute media driven garbage. The thread is titled ' Tracc Wants Out'. No evidence whatsoever to support this . None! If people want to question the direction of the club etc fine. Start a new thread. Demonland has closed threads for less and has just posted not to be using hearsay and rumour on this site. If this doesn't fit into those categories I'm not sure what does.

Not just the coach but also the club. Sounds to me like your giving the likes of Tom Morris more kudos than the aforementioned. I think I have a modicum of intelligence to look at something for what it is. Goodwin was emphatic about Petracca and Oliver. Case closed.

Would like to have a sizeable wager on Oliver and Petracca lining up in round one next year? Barring unforeseen injury there is a greater likelihood of that happening than the sun coming up in the morning!

We watched a difference press conference. I think you had your volume turned down.

Here, here. I have posted similar on another thread. What a champion of the game. Last time I looked he was still our highest disposal gatherer for the season. Many players would have put the cue in the rack. Outstandingly brave effort. 4 time best and fairest and in the conversation for our greatest ever. Yet still there are those on here that delight in getting stuck into him. I'm not a 'happy clapper' when it comes to players but when it come to the great Clayton Oliver I have nothing but the upmost admiration. Even more so given his pre season turmoil. If you don't you're not a true Demon.

If this crosses over other threads so be it. Thought Goodwin's press conference today was simply outstanding. Eloquent, precise, informative and measured. Put to bed any of the media nonsense in a no frills manner. Petracca and Oliver staying. What a surprise! Outlined that all footy clubs have their frustrations, debates and times of angst. It's called human nature. This is not true only in the AFL but all footy clubs in this country. Our mate Tom Morris was back pedalling at a rate of knots and was noticeably quieter throughout proceedings. For those who believed a word this 'person' said well, it's just embarrassing. Finally, the revelations re Clarry were stark. We find now he has been playing with a busted hand, knee and a cracked rib. What an awesome effort from a guy who many said would never play for the club again. To all those people in the media and those on this site who mercilessly got stuck into Oliver hang your collective heads in shame. He is a champion of the club and one of the all time greats in the history of the game. He will be back bigger and better than ever. Once again well done Simon.✔️

Well spoken but this is an inflammatory thread and the club has spoken emphatically. Not sure why you're choosing to keep it open. It's now a non story and you're inviting vitriol.

If that's case, which I doubt, you're right. It's a positive. Time for a shake up of assistant coaches and backroom staff. Helped us win a flag. Think it will happen regardless. For me time for Stafford and Williams to move on at the very least. Chaplin has been there for a long time. Love Selwyn Griffith to look further afield paving the way for Darren Burgess return. Unfortunately I think that's unlikely.

Fair enough but if there was a market available to place a wager on Petracca staying I would put plenty at $1.01.

Well said.

Petracca might say something but I hope he doesn't. Responding to Tom Morris gutter 'journalism ' only dignifies a [censored]. As for the club's statement. Damned if if they did, damned if they don't. Press release ended any speculation.

That there is nothing to see here.