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I think it’d be hard to argue it wasn’t a factor . It’s logical given we were the weaker team with a considerably less break . In any event , they were 4-6 goals up for nearly all the match . I suspect ( and can’t be certain) that even with an equal break, they would have comfortably beaten us. On many levels they were the more skilled, fitter side.

Please Binman , this week don’t point to some statistic that show some degree of competitiveness by this Melbourne team . I appreciate your positivity but the fact is we got soundly beaten. We were never in the match and the winning margin could have been even worse. This team ,under the former coach’s guidance, has fallen off a cliff since 2024 - its win / loss record falling from 80% in 2021 to 30% this Season. Many of the Senior players ( with Gawn being the obvious exception) , despite being highly paid and on long contracts, continue to seriously underperform and appear (at times) to be disinterested. The fact that some of these players were on Whispering Jack’s best player list is both surprising and concerning. The development of our younger players , at best , has been patchy and some have gone backwards. And let’s not start on our decline in fitness. As a long time supporter and member, I hope our new management and coach can arrest this slide but we will just have to wait and see.

You make a good point , the game plan works against teams with weaker defences. But surely a game plan is only worthwhile and sustainable if it works consistently against the top teams with good defences. Clearly our game plan has failed miserably in that regard . This is why our win loss ratio has plummeted and is less than half of what it was in 2021. I thought there was plenty of endeavour in yesterday’s game but it was the execution at the end which was and has consistently been the problem. Moreover , our mid field has gone from elite to average in record time.

Only recently. He did say Lever was probably the most obvious choice but Lever has ongoing injury issues. That makes sense as he seems to perennially have chronic foot and ankle issues.

Very interesting. I had a similar conversation with Gawn at a function . A couple of interesting things he also had to say was that Petty was exemplary at training but that he was doing his best “ playing out of position “. He clearly sees him as a back man. He also was the view Langdon should be the next Captain and asked what I thought of that suggestion. He also wasn’t a fan of Paul Roos’ treatment of players, especially singling them out.

Totally disagree . Horse is an excellent, proven , experienced coach . Just having a team make four grand finals is a great achievement in itself . We’ve been only involved in three since 1964! He is more proven and has a better record than any of the other contenders. The fact that he is “an outsider” is I think a strength as I think he could bring needed new ideas and approaches. I agree the fact he is Sydney based may make the coaching position less attractive to him.

I’m with you. He is proven and his coaching statistics at the Swans are very sound , including a Premiership. I think he’d be a real asset. I prefer him over the others in the mix. Also I think it should be irrelevant as to whether they are a former player or not. Indeed an outside influence, may be what the Club needs.

Last time I looked mate we are sitting well in the bottom 8 , looking at a sub 40 % win/ loss ratio (less than half our 2021 win/ loss ratio and it will be about 40% even if we win the next three games!) , are bleeding members (and consequently money ) and to put it kindly have a chaotic administration. What about that is not realistic??? These are facts.I wish they weren’t . So Petty has a reasonably good game against one of the weakest teams the AFL has seen for years ! What the hell does that prove?? He has shown clearly the last two Seasons he is low in the rankings of AFL forwards. Viney is a great Club man and has been a quality player. He is still a good player but his form ( understandably given he’s a veteran player) has dropped especially over the last two Seasons.

Gees mate you are a really on a high after that one win against the Cellar Dwellers… stop insulting the many long term members and supporters on here who have expressed real and justifiable concerns about the performance of the team and the Club. You’re entitled not to share their sense of realism but just don’t bag them for it . Many of them have supported this Club through thick and thin for decades.

Wow thats mature but don’t let me stop you being excited by this win , I suppose it’s better than last week’s capitulation. I’ll give you that

What a lot of bull….anyone with half a brain is not crowing over this win …especially after last week’s capitulation and about 35% win loss ratio for the Season .A win against an under manned ( just lost their Star player ) Wooden Spooner hardly playing at WAFL / VFL level , let alone that of a serious AFL team…better than a loss but other than that largely a meaningless win…if your happy to crow about such a win good on you but you are obviously easily satisfied

Quite frankly whatever our performance this week , it will be meaningless ( unless perhaps if we lose again) the Eagles are one of the worst ( if not the worst side ) of the competition and their ranks have been decimated. A win over them proves nothing . Every game is an opportunity to perform. Meaningless waffle - a truism. The fact is they haven’t performed. Our win / loss ratio fell by 25 % approximately in 2022 and 2023 from 2021 , a further 25% in 2024 and by another 7% this season so far . From 80% to 33% and with most of the same players.

I just don’t buy that the Coach can just wipe his hands of what has been nothing short of a collapse of our on field performance since 2021 and just blame the players. The Coach also has a significant say in the recruitment of players. The Magpies and Geelong have an older list than us but are performing significantly better. The fact is only a couple of Seasons ago we had a competitive team with a top midfield , a top defence and the best ruckman in the competition. Most of are Premiership players are still playing. We are now easy beats. I do not know of any high performance sports team , where a Coach can simply escape culpability after such a performance crash. I don’t buy we can’t do any better other than with Goodwin Really ? What is it about his coaching performances that suggest he is the best coach available? The answer objectively is nothing. He’s been at the helm when instead of establishing a dynasty ( which he openly said was his objective after the 2021 Premiership) to where the team is now a laughing stock , can’t run out games , has poor skills and is no longer competitive.