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Some of you blokes are kidding yourselves if you think that Macca doesn't deserve his spot in the best 22. Just who is going to replace him? Noone on our list deserves to be captain more than Macca, he is the only AA player FCS. He won the Bluey in 2007 and suddenly he is the 25th best player on our list? Some on this site give our list of toddlers to much credit.

The WBFC would much prefer to play that game in Victoria and make the same amount of money than play it in Darwin. St.Kilda has one of the worst stadium deals with Collins apparently. Richmond struggle, like most clubs, to make money at the G against Freo and the like. All these issues lead me to believe they wouldn't mind playing two to three games each year at a small stadium that they can make money out of.

Bailey overreacted for sure but... If you have decided not to play on with a club don't... Let your agent tell the FOM before you do. Go to training and act like a decision hasn't been made. He should have turned up to training early in his civvies and told DB and CC himself.

Seriously hoping English is your second language... Finances are tough, but we will survive. A sponsor will come, memberships will exceed records, and AFL/MCC funding will be put to good use. Give us a stadium in Casey and we might even thrive.

Ideal world, yeah. But how can we hope to do that? Frankly, a boutique stadium will only come about with the strength of club numbers. MFC, NMFC, ST.KFC, RFC, and WBFC require a small stadium to make money out of.

I don't think it is on their radar. Any mention of it seems to be a desperate attempt to get some leverage over the MCC and Collins for better stadium deals. They believe the cost would be prohibitive. I really want someone with some industry knowledge to post on this site and inform us how much it would cost to seat 20k, or 15k, or have 10k sit and the rest stand.

You should read the posts carefully. Aside from one, the rest of us realise that no-one is going to pay for us to play there. But if we could manage to get 15-20k people to fit and pay, we would make hundreds of thousands of dollars. Train lines will go straight to the ground in a matter of years and traffic is an issue coming back from all grounds. I've been stuck at SC station for 2 hours after a footy game once. Ian Collins couldn't care less. Traffic does not concern me.

Not a big fan of commenting on rumour but the poster on 'ology isn't one to lie for kicks. Macca deserves it, as the most accomplished player on our list and a club champion in good times (2006) and bad (2007). The leadership group was always going to have Bruce, Green, and McLean but it is good to see Moloney and Miller included if ER is correct. They both seem to be leaders of men, I know they both have struggled for form and with injuries but McLean is going to need help in a couple years when he is captain and needing help from senior players - they'll be it.

Exactly. Selling games to Casey would be akin to selling oil to the Mid East.

Debt Demolition money is included. We would have lost over $3m this year if not for that. We need a sponsor...

Hawthorn were not playing finals and spending a lot of time in the top 4 when they traded Spida. Completely different scenario...other than they are both tall... 2004 we were 1st after Rd 18, 2005 we were 2nd after Rd 13, and in 2006 we were 3rd after Rd 20. Hawthorn were nowhere near there and only hindsight can tell us that trading our best ruckman was a good idea. The simple fact is that we understandably thought we were closer to a flag than we were and no-one would have traded an AA ruckman in that frame of mind.

Trade Jeff White at the end of 2004? Excuse me, I had something crazy in my ear?! We were top of the ladder 4 games out from the finals and we should have traded the AA ruckman?! FFS people...get with it, or give it up. As an aside, RR - We got Moloney in the Ottens deal, Pick 15, traded for Jolly got us Dunn. You can argue a causal relationship but Thompson for 12, 12 for Moloney.

I think you're both talking past each other. RR is basically saying that bucketloads of money shouldn't be required to help acclimitise players to Melbourne. And the fork seems to be saying that the culture difference is one that should be respected, as it will affect these kids more than draftees from Brisbane or...Oakleigh. Frankly, I think you're both right. Other than a few plane flights home, what has to be bought to settle anyone? (Outside of a home, and...groceries?) And the difference in culture will be a shock and a support network needs to be in place, which I am sure the club has thought about.

If he can handball and has vision he's ahead of every other midfielder in our team.

Nathan is a talent but he needs to learn how to handball in tight, and kick to advantage.

Great news, and when the train line is built (might be a ways off yet) it will be a special place for an elite football club to train and build a club.

Extremely well said. As an MFC/MCC $160 member I can hold this over some of my mates who are MCC members, get a Dees membership you mugs...

I believe the AFL is considering making the enforced deletions 2 and not 3 while GC17 and WS are getting started. Robbo, Macca, and Wheels would make way. Bell, Meesen, Frawley, Batram and Cheney would be on soft ground. Pretty certain all are OOC, I'm reasonably certain we didn't give Meesen a 3 year contract but not entirely. And injuries may bring the end for Moloney and Rivers ahead of time.

He looks bloody fantastic in the red and the blue... Seems pretty determined, I think he will be fine down south. And from what I've read his family won't let him give up on his dream.

Furious D, you can say that the G is our home but don't tell me that embracing a growing area of Melbourne is suicide. I'm not saying 4 games, i'm not saying play half our games away from the G. 2 games for a million bucks. That's what can be made with 20000 crowds with low rent or no rent, and with selling of advertising. Argue the G is our rightful home but don't tell me Casey is our road to ruin. Because you're wrong. (You really should get out there, the facilities are amazing and the opportunities limitless.)

Well I am 23 and a pathetic tragic, but I feel the same. With 34 players 25 or younger, we have set ourselves for a tilt...if we're patient. And with 22 players on our senior list 21 or younger at the start of next season we have to be very patient... Still, there is excitement in the development; 2008 had Buckley, Garland, Martin, Warnock, and Wonna. Who will step up in 2009? I look forward to finding out.

As always, casey scorp has some great points. Look, as an MCC memeber I would hate to see the MFC play a home game away from the G. But we already do. I took my girlfriend to the game in Canberra and it was a strange feeling explaining to her that this was a game we sent up here because we are flat broke. Personally, I would prefer to see MFC play in front of a packed 20000 (and make some serious money, it is extremely lucrative to pack out a 20000 stadium if the rent is low and you can sell the advertising) at Casey than a neutral Canberra or hostile SCG or Gabba. It might never happen, because the AFL at the minute see it as a step backwards, but we should push for it because it is a chance for us to get ahead and not just survive.

Polak's injury happened outside football. I don't see a severe precedent here. Devastating things will happen outside of footy and the AFL shouldn't take itself so seriously.

So he is important or cut?! Can we leave the polling options for better topics, the captaincy was a good one to start, player appraisals can be kept in a thread as opinion.

Don't equate a footy injury to a devastating event that occurred outside of footy. We know a little about this stuff... Richmond shouldn't be penalised for standing behind a bloke that may not play footy again. Cousins or no Cousins...