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If true, that's Pick 18 opened up. Good luck to him, opportunities would only get scarcer and the guy cannot kick. A really good midfield might be able to carry him but not ours...

Must have had a solid 2009 then...

Don't complain, it makes you more attractive... I'm just kidding, and no I don't drink heavily at all. I tell you what I do do before visiting Land... I bring my A-Game. Yeah!!

Jom Scungove & Tack Trelly would confuse everyone and do what you're asking... Of course, we'd look like idiots...

He sees the scenario because he read the article arse backwards. It wasn't about Morabito, it was about there being a talent at 3 that wouldn't be there at 4 and it was either Martin, Morabito, or Cunnington. Richmond's reported desire for Martin leads all (rational) people to conclude that Sydney wanted Martin very badly. As much as hangon007 wants Ball, titan wants Flash Forward to be decent, and I want better quadriceps (honestly first game of cricket for the year and they are TENDER!).

It sounds defeatist? If he nominates for the the ND it means we have been defeated. Going into the ND leads me to believe that he is angry at St Kilda and thinks Melbourne is an option akin to retirement. I want him, but through the PSD. If he wants to play for this club, he will come through the PSD. Why beat around the bush? This is where we stand. You want to be here instead of the Saints, or god knows where; nominate for the PSD, wear the Red & Blue and be damn thankful for the opportunity.

You thought I was joking?! I just want (sob) Luke Ball to come to this club (sob) so bad... (Getting myself together) I would bake for the man... I'd do other things too. Nothing sexual, I don't fly that way... But...kill a man? Maybe, depends how well he's playing. Hold up a bank? Yeah, if I got some help. Scam Crown Casino out of millions? Already done that, but I'd go back to that well for LB if he needed some extra $.

That would be about 6,238, if Land was to rank every contribution you have made, HT. That makes less sense than Flash Forward... And yes, I will keep watching, but it better go somewhere quickly.

I understand the desire to push Ball and his management into a corner so he is coming to our club whether he likes it or not. But I think it sends a poor message about our own view of our club - we should have the confidence to say 'we are a good club, we would love to have you, and the PSD is the option you should take if you want to be apart of our club.' If he goes into the ND it is a flagrant denunciation of Melbourne and illustrates a deep desire not to be at this club. He has three options; re-sign with St.Kilda, come to the MFC via the PSD, or go anywhere (most likely Sydney or PA before Coll) in the ND. There is a 'security of known destination' in two of those options, but not in the third - the ND option. If he has burnt his bridges at the Saints and decides to go into the ND, he has obviously looked at the MFC option at rejected it with prejudice. But he has done nothing yet, so I do not indict on hypotheticals. I really don't think he will go into the ND.

I haven't seen any reports about Sydney wanting him either. I have seen reports about Martin going to Richmond at 3, and extrapolated that Sydney's desire for Pick 3 and not Pick 4 is because they want what Richmond want - Dustin Martin. Come on, HT. You're better than that.

If he goes into the ND, he doesn't want to play for Melbourne. So this 'strategic mistake' nonsense is just that. If we came out and said we will spend Pick 18 on him, we would get the ire of fans who think we should get a kid, we would be forcing the club down his throat - it would be counter productive. I think Sydney or Port will get him before, or after (with Port), Pick 18 so I don't believe that the ND is an attractive option for LB. It's the hard decision to stay with the Saints, or the harder decision to play for the Demons.

Another solid season. Will finish third to Davey and Beamer in the Bluey. Will play HBF next season and should continue to do well.

Oh noes!! RR and I tagged team another poster... We are so mean.

Wow... (Don't be patronising, don't be patronising, don't be patronising...) There is only space for McDonald and Bruce on the VL as Bruce will take Robertson's spot. Only 2 Vets outside the main list. OK?

He doesn't exist, Nasher. He's a fable concocted by a cunning criminal, preying on the ignorance and gullibility of a few lawmen who so desperately wanted to believe his beautiful lies and seductive stories. Anyway... You never said that to me... That hurts...

Just a lot of confused people yelling at the gods... They don't know what happened, nor do we. For Luke - it's going to be a hard decision, or a harder decision. I hope he makes the harder decision.

Clubs losing players will be given a 'value pick' as compensation. Miller would get probably 40 something if he went.

In that unlikely event, yes, we would require a second thought on drafting him at 18. Until he does this, I will not indict. He will either make the hard decision to stay at a club on far less money for a coach that doesn't want him, or he will make the harder decision to come to the back-to-back wooden spooners and start a new, demanding, chapter in his life. BTW, Sydney wished to trade Picks 6 and 14 to Richmond for Pick 3, they rate this draft less than I do and Ball will not get to 18 if goes in the ND. Port or Sydney will snap him up. I really don't think he will go that route.

The 'clearly second to Scully' was poorly phrased. What I meant was that Trengove is clearly better than the third best prospect - and that is simply from what little I have seen, read, and chatted about with a few people who know a lot more than I. To me, both are as good a prospect as each other, with Scully pushing himself above Trengove with impressive interviews, and his obvious professionalism.

I can bake. How about a monthly batch of chocolate brownies or blueberry muffins if he agrees to come? I guess that the nutritionist wouldn't like him to eat those though... You're gonna have to get back to me on this...

McNamara has got promise as a utility, and Cheney is a neat kick, is courageous, and can take a mark, he gets lost a bit when picking up someone but had a solid 1st year of AFL. Batram cannot kick and has limited awareness, I struggle to see him playing in our midfield next year. Run with roles can be given to other players as an exercise in development. And Buckley's injuries worry me, as I'm sure, they do Simon and the club.

He made a pact with himself at 14 that he wouldn't have a drink, because he wanted to get drafted and play footy. He wasn't on the [censored] at 14, but it's the time when kids start to do stupid things - and drinking too much is one of them. For me, Trengove is clearly second to Scully. Both would be capable of handling the expectations that come with being number 1, but Scully seems to want this life like no kid that has come before him. The countdown will see Trengove at 2, and Scully at 1. And I will have it on the IQ for a while...

What have these players done for us not to honour their contracts? Not develop? That's our fault. They were never good enough? We picked them up in the first place. Unless they are doing stupid things (Carroll) - honour their contracts. Batram, Buckley, McNamara, and Cheney are the only ones that I know of that are OOC. 1, 2, 11 and PSD1 are priorities in my mind. Bruce on the VL (due to Robbo delisting), Whelan, Wheatley, and McLean out provide space for those picks. 1 has to go for Pick 18 - Batram 2 have to go for Pick 34 - Batram & Buckley If Pick 34 is not considered as good a prospect as Buckley then don't use that pick. We don't have to use that pick. Depending on how the medicos see Buckley's OP I would be prepared to forget about 34.

I'm prepared to get some shapes. Coz, I is hungry. What I have to do? I give my money so I can sit back and let CS, CC, TH, BP, and DB do it. Should I give money? Should I make a banner to be placed outside his house? Should I offer my services for a gratitious sex act? Should I blackmail potential recruits? OK, I'm having a little fun. But seriously...

Well said. It would be great to see Ball in Red & Blue at the bottom of a few packs. And a 'Leadership Position' is not a lure, it is an immediate burden that not many would want to see going to a new organisation. He will be a leader, because he has been leading footy teams since he was 8, you don't need to tacitly say that we are relying on him for that leadership, and that we have no-one else, by giving him the VC.