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There is a place for him in the 22 if he can regain form. Dunn has got his spot at the minute, perhaps. But Lynden is, as Lynden does... I wouldn't be trading out either because I couldn't tell you which one of them is going to be 'on' in 2011.

That post came from incredulity not malice. I only single out the great ones, WYL. You know that...

So we recruit a tall winger to be ruck? The reason why Bailey is going after the Hale-type is to kill (or fill) two holes in our 22 with the same player: 1. Tall FP or the 'get-out' forward 2. A back up ruck to help Jamar Brennan helps the second; but he is slight so I don't know by how much. He doesn't help the first need though.

Fraser is arguably more of a winger than PJ. The market will decide Hale's worth. It's just a shame that we have a cashed up, pick-ed up, competitor up north, jacking up the prices. Let's not forget - some on here are just as delusional about the worth of our trade bait. Warnock is worth a top 20 pick?! Maric similarly over-rated.

Did deluded reply to one of my posts 4 times? That's some post. But my favourite reply would have had to have been a lazy WYL not reading my post closely and claiming I was 'riddling' with him. WYL is a national treasure on this place. Cherish him people, he won't be here forever. He's camp, really. Puts a smile on your face.

No two teams are the same. They have ruckmen, we have a ruckman. Who needs help.

Or the MFC do the deal; get Hale and then who they wanted at Pick 12 is still there at 17. Check. Mate.

You're not convincing me here. Who we pick with 12 in 2010, or who we pick with 17 in 2010, will pale in significance to who we picked in 2007, 08, and 09. Again, some supporters are stuck in this 'draft week is the be-all and end-all of football fortunes' mindset. We have raided the past three drafts and got some great talent. That mindset was a buttress when we were sh!te, and we have got some amazing talent from those drafts. What we didn't get was a buck-up ruck/fwd to help Jamar. We want one don't we? Well guess what boys and girls - they don't grow on trees, you have to pay for it.

That kid? Probably, be playing a Casey if he's a mid. Definitely playing at Casey if he is a tall defender, or mobile forward. If he is a tall forward then he will be fighting it out with Gawn and Fitzpatrick. We have the talent. Everywhere. Let's get some help for Jamar next year.

Potential AA? Fight fair, now. Pick 12 - Quality Pick 17 - Questionable When is the threshold? 15? Is it the same threshold in all drafts? Does it change when all the 17 year olds are taken by one club? So the point is, as you say, you don't think Hale is worth it. The FD evidently disagree, and so do I, Jamar needs help, we have had enough (more than enough) quality picks over the last few years. Let's get a 22 next year that can do something.

12 of those boys are WAY better than the others. The only problem: We won't know which 12 for many years. The only answer: Never trade out of the top 12? No. Build a time machine.

If you are going to play this game, I know alot of people love this game (Very quick with the draft results too BTW), then you have to let me have everyone picked after Pick 17 too... But you won't let me. Because it blows your argument out of the water. We are picking teenagers here. The judgement of the recuiting team is what you are questioning, not the difference between Pick 12 and Pick 17.

Oh, ROTA... Putting words in my mouth? You might get away with that on BF. But not here. Never here. There is a difference. Set of steak knives difference. Might be enough to tip them over while still keeping us in the first round. And 'our drafting fate in our hands?' I think we have been to used to being at the pointy end of the draft, we have young talent in every position. What we don't have is an acceptable back-up for Jamar who happens to be an AA player and who doesn't get a rest in games. If the FD wants to take a calculated risk to do that, I say Jolly-good show. We Ottens let them go for it then.

Explain the difference, the amazing difference, in talent between 12 and 17 and maybe those members will stick with you. Otherwise, when they calm down - they'll be with me.

The armchair recruiters hate this proposed deal... There must be amazingly talented (and obvious) five 18 year olds, about to be picked at 12-16 in the draft... Honestly, we wanted the 2nd round pick deal and we threw in a set of steak knives. They don't want the steak knives. Although, steak knives look attractive when you have been looking long enough...

It means that if a player hears, or has enough time to 'hear,' an umpire call play on and they kick it, handball it, run with it, and/or give it straight up to an opposition player then the ump won't take it back. It means that players who think that the ball should come back to the infringed have to make a split second decision to stop and not take the 'advantage.' This would have been a good rule for Simon Godfrey. Everytime 'Clanger' got the ball and heard advantage he could have said "No. Not taking it. Team instructions."

TBH, I didn't see much defining of our gameplan in the OP. And your post is basically listing the 'requirements' of the gameplan rather than the strategy itself. I could dig up a thread from many months (years, probably, we are wasting are lives...) ago, but a few regulars would call me self-indulgent and full of myself. Who am i kidding? They think that anyway. I might search for it later.

Right! I was going backwards in time. Whoops. November 1.

Stef Martin kicks the ball like a basketballer. He won't be FF/FP worth his spot. I'm afraid he will be a defender or not much else.

All contracts run till October 31.

If we knew he was going, Junior would be playing in 2011.

It was an extensive basketball-like zone in defence. Which stretched beyond 50m from the ball so you couldn't kick your way out of it. All you need to do to beat it is practice handballing and be bold and risky, and confident in your own ability.

Signed a 3 year deal in march of 07 for the years 07, 08, 09, and 10. OOC as of Sept 1.

Who would are mobile pinch hitter be? The back-up ruck MUST now have an alternative position that is his speciality, that is for certain, but that doesn't mean my desire for a tall forward with some rucking ability is misguided. You have to hide your back-up ruck somewhere now. Why not up forward?

Ok, I will play along then. If I was the attacking team: I wouldn't pump it high - I would clean up the Watts equivalent. I wouldn't skittle it in along the ground - my teammates would bury anyone picking it up under such congestion. I would kick it toward the boundary line and get it out of play. Leaves the other pocket, relatively, free - a bit of space created.